What advice would the veterans give the young guys involved in this hobby?

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I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can? what would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.
 
I don’t know how you can afford to eat and hobby on 55k. I would say save your money for property. I am on the high side of 250k and I still resent what I spend every month on the hobby. I’ve stopped almost entirely, only going to a fully legit lady once a week. I’ve known her for a few years and she’s the only one truly worth it. Spend your disposable income on something more constructive. Btw, I’ve been in the scene almost 4 decades.
 
Dont make friends with Krayjee and his 40 + handles.

The man is a Sociopath.
 
I don’t know how you can afford to eat and hobby on 55k. I would say save your money for property. I am on the high side of 250k and I still resent what I spend every month on the hobby. I’ve stopped almost entirely, only going to a fully legit lady once a week. I’ve known her for a few years and she’s the only one truly worth it. Spend your disposable income on something more constructive. Btw, I’ve been in the scene almost 4 decades.
well i live with my parents lol. my expenses are mainly my phone bill and presto card, and my job lets me work from home 3 days a week so i barely have any transportation expenses. lol i keep about 90% of my pay
 
well i live with my parents lol. my expenses are mainly my phone bill and presto card, and my job lets me work from home 3 days a week so i barely have any transportation expenses. lol i keep about 90% of my pay
Buy property as soon as you are able. Trust me on that.
 
Dont make friends with Krayjee and his 40 + handles.

The man is a Sociopath.

Lol are you peter66? whats up with people accusing others of being 1 person. you know this is the internet right ursus. alot of people have access to this stuff. me being krayjee is as true as you having a chinese wife.

LoL @krayjee am i doing it right?

Lord John
 
Buy property as soon as you are able. Trust me on that.

yep my parents said they'll help me with a down payment when i have enough to buy a place. this hobbying eats up about 200-500 a month which isnt much for me considering all my other expenses are low
 
Krayjee,

Go outside and make some friends.

It will help you tremendously.
 
I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can?
Your income typically goes up as you get older, but your cock won't work as well later on. Hobby as much as you can within your budget and schedule, while you still can.

And yes this hobby will change the way you look at girls moving forward. Civvies typically aren't as skilled in bed as professionals.
What would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.
Carry extra cash and an extra condom...
 
Dont wait for any prostitute.

Once she starts to delay the appt, leave and go fuck another whore.

And no 2nd chances.
 
only one of my friends in real life knows of my hobby participation and i tried to rationalize with him why i left my girlfriend and how this will make up for it, and he said it was a genius idea lol. he told me he'd do it as well if he had a good job. if your young making good money why stay tied down to 1 girl when you can go fuck a new one every week? maybe when i get more serious i will get back into a relationship in 2-4 years but i think i'd rather have some fun now and enjoy this time while it lasts
 
Do a lot of introspective reflection to watch for addiction. It's easy to get addicted. When you start feeling anxious and need to see a girl just to get off, that's a sign of addiction. Also, don't fall in love. Easiest is to do what you set out and see a different girl every week. But, eventually, you may start seeing a few regularly. So watch your emotional reactions.

55k a year is peanuts. Listen to Peter666 and others. Even if you living at home, save your money and buy property. Houses are freaking expensive these days. I really don't know how young people are expected to buy anything.
 
I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can? what would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.

I started with one massage a month and moved up; sometimes I go 3-4 times a week.
do the math is a ton of money per year, I went from $1,200.00 at the beginning to a $24,000.00 last year

Yes, you have the "memories" but hey, you can't buy an ice cream cone with that.
Yes, this habit ruins your head, your perspective of women, your outlook on life

My Advice: Walk away from this fucking, disgusting hobby,
Save your $$$, set a target, buy a house, move in, then buy a second home, rent it
Pump you money into RRSPs, pay off your debt, pay off your CCs, you will see you have little money left to waste after covering all your expenses.

distract your self with other activities, travel, movies, family.

When you feel the urge to visit the whores. put the money into your savings. Once you see your money growing you'll want to make your stash bigger and bigger.

Walk away while you can
 
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Remember that these girls are PREDATORS. They see you as a MARK.

The only thing they want from you is your MONEY.

So, hobby close to home, for they will undoubtably play games on you and waste your time and travel costs. If you hobby close to home, you can lessen these costs. Trust me 100% - they will screw you around by bumping you, making you wait, flaking on you etc. They will try to cut corners during the appt, make excuses, lie and cheat/scam you out of your money.

Reduce your risks by playing smart.

No mattery what a Whore says to you, dont believe it. They Lie for a living, same as a politician does. They aren't your friend and they dont even care 1% about you as a person.

I have had Hookers try to threaten me with Police attention, claim I assaulted them, claim I threatened them etc. And in every case, I wasnt even in any contact with the girl whatsoever. They just make shit up right out of thin air in order to please their own devious emotions.

You have to be super careful when you interact with these Predators.
 
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Well... I started in the late 70's going to strip bars, then the internet came BOOM the whole industry changed...strip bars basically became your early body rubs. Then the massage parlours came about... topless at first then well everything. Then SP's became the norm. My advise to the new hobbiest would be to set a firm budget or you will be in trouble fast, also always use a cover even for a PS. Believe me if you don't it can change your life in a hurry.
 
I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can? what would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.

I won't bore you with the whole "save your money and invest in property" crap because it all goes without saying. I'm doing fine now but was able to do this hobby when I was broke because we all need a few vices in life and going to MPs is better than drinking or smoking weed. Set a budget, find a few regulars and limit that list. I've never been the adventurous type but I've noticed that seeing one woman has considerably shrunk my budget as opposed to the time that I had to stash away several thousands of dollars on a bunch of 40/45-minute sessions so I could try as many girls as possible every week. Now I can get more out of this hobby by having unrushed 90-minute or 2-hour sessions twice or more a month with someone I trust. I suggest that you treat this hobby as a fantasy and not a means of attaining sexual gratification. Fuck! You're young! Use Tinder for sex! Let the fantasy from your MP experiences inspire you to find the right woman.
 
I won't bore you with the whole "save your money and invest in property" crap because it all goes without saying. I'm doing fine now but was able to do this hobby when I was broke because we all need a few vices in life and going to MPs is better than drinking or smoking weed. Set a budget, find a few regulars and limit that list. I've never been the adventurous type but I've noticed that seeing one woman has considerably shrunk my budget as opposed to the time that I had to stash away several thousands of dollars on a bunch of 40/45-minute sessions so I could try as many girls as possible every week. Now I can get more out of this hobby by having unrushed 90-minute or 2-hour sessions twice or more a month with someone I trust. I suggest that you treat this hobby as a fantasy and not a means of attaining sexual gratification. Fuck! You're young! Use Tinder for sex! Let the fantasy from your MP experiences inspire you to find the right woman.

I think I've just come around to this way of thinking. Reading these message boards and looking at the profiles of different girls, it makes the imagination run wild. I desperately wanted to try them all out and I've been going really hard lately, recently I went every fucking day for a week and even twice on one day. I actually got burned out, I thought what the hell am I doing this is supposed to be fun. I took a break for a week and had a 90 min session with my regular and it was perhaps the best session I've ever had. I guess I just had to get it all outta my system. Quality over quantity from now on.
 
I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can? what would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.

We all need some loving care from some of these beautiful ladies, I been doing this since my separation
7 years ago. Take your time and don't rush things and most importantly read the reviews it brings up
The wow factor. As time goes on you'll make friends if your a gentleman of course, I brought out countless
Ladies for dinner afterwards with no up charge. This is always nice after sex. And one lady and I went
Away for week down south it was great waking up to a naked curvy body beside you. I've had my fill
Of relationships and also being married for 20 years. I prefer this with no expectations or commitments just pure sex and laughs. And don't think paying higher is better, that is not the the truth. Im pursuing one
Firecracker right now that I found on twitter, she has the body of a goddess and the service to match.
I was blown away when she told me it was 280 for the hr. I was for sure thinking it was 400.
Btw you can find real gems on Twitter. That you can talk to privately.
 
don't fall in love

they don't love you and will not love you
 
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    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️(647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️(437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Nana😘 is a sexy young slim Malaysian girl w
  31. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Japanese Lily 36DDD and young pretty student Summer, young open mind Jessy and sex Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  32. KSpa:
    SUNDAY at 𝐊 𝐒𝐏𝐀: JESSICA, YUMI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟵𝟮-𝟳𝟱𝟲𝟴 ☎️ JESSICA is 20, Chinese, 5’3” and 110 Lbs, sexy & good looking with 34C goodies to play with. YUMI is a young early twenties Japanese girl, about 5’2”, medium build, natural chest, and a big sexy bum. Yumi is very versatile and skilled. CINDY is slim & pretty
  33. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at Sugar Love Spa: Eva, Lily, Sunny & Tiffany. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 437-365-2688 ☎ CICI is Chinese, 49 Kgs & 1M 57Cms, with nice D melons & an open services menu. Sugar Love Spa is an all new spa, and we are moving more upscale, with beautiful young attendants to provide massage all your cares away, and services to satisfy your needs. Relax and enjoy a professional quality massage.
  34. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, Young Slim Thai Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  35. SunriseRH:
    SUNDAY at 𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔: HELEN, SUMMER & TIANA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟮𝟱-𝟴𝟬𝟴𝟲 ☎️ HELEN is a young, slim & very sexy Vietnamese lady. She not only looks good, she IS good. SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5’3” with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services.
  36. NewOriental:
    SUNDAY at 🍏💚𝗡𝗘𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗣𝗔💚🍏: HAPPY, PHOENIX & LULU. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟴𝟭-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. PHOENIX is a gentle sweet Filipina lady, 5’4” and 105Lbs, with 34C-24-34 assets and very open minded. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl
  37. ASPA:
    𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝗔 𝗦𝗣𝗔: Be𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹, & Sophia 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ RACHEL is a petite & cute, 34C, 155Cms & 50Kg, very gentle & patient. She has good communication, massage & service. SOPHIA is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5’4”
  38. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️Amy & Jenny. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Don’t miss out on her special skills! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curved with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  39. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,🏠 address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 🈵🈵👅👅🦵🦵👄👄
  40. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Sonia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Connie , Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .☎️4379857899👅👅🈵🈵🦵🦵👄👄
  41. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Jennifer, Mia & Sophia. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded.
  42. Dreaminn:
    SUNDAY at 💭𝗗𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗜𝗡𝗡 𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗟𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 𝗦𝗣𝗔💭: NEW GIRL KELLY, HONEY, & VIVI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟮𝟵-𝟮𝟵𝟴𝟯 ☎️ KELLY is a young & pretty Asian girl, very slim model figure, 5’3” with unreal bbbj skills & very liberal services. HONEY is a beautiful slim Asian lady with an ample bosom, slightly curvy with a great ass. Her services are highly sought after.
  43. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 AAVI, SARIKA, PAYAL PEARL, NINA, MALIYA, NISHA, NIMRAT, MONIKA, KIRAN 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  44. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥 Zoe - 🔥Stunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who Wa
  45. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Vicky🥰A new arrival at our branch 🎉👯‍♀️Vicky is a very young CBC part time student working for tuition fees and books, this bright young sexy girl is willing to showcase her eagerness to please AND be pleased. Busty 34C boobs on a peti
  46. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa ♨️♨️♨️ table shower body scrub 👍👍👍We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely Jessica and coco Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici🤗🤗🤗🤗5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call ☎️416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  47. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, Young Curvy Sexy Latina Karen, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
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  49. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 AAVI, SARIKA, PAYAL PEARL, NINA, MALIYA, NISHA, NIMRAT, MONIKA, KIRAN 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  50. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-06Today we have 5 girls on Saturday: Jennifer - CBC girl with large breasts and a nice booty to compliment her fun services Vicky - cute spinner with a slim frame and services Sandy -... 💋💋new girl Linda💋💋
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