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Chat Hobby tips and lessons learned...

Make sure you have some info on the girl you want to see ,name description etc so you don't get stuck with bait and switch tactics.and don't be afraid to walk out if you don't get what you want.
 
Do not have your cell number anywhere in your Facebook profile. I've never entered mine but a number of times i've had an MPA give me their number and sometime later when I'm on Facebook on my phone their profiles come up as friend suggestions

If you have your number tied to your profile you'll come up as a suggestion for them. Depending on your security settings you could be exposed.

Wasn't aware of this but good to know...
 
Also always good to double-check your privacy settings on social media. Ensure that people who you do not have added can not see your friends.
 
Do not have your cell number anywhere in your Facebook profile. I've never entered mine but a number of times i've had an MPA give me their number and sometime later when I'm on Facebook on my phone their profiles come up as friend suggestions

If you have your number tied to your profile you'll come up as a suggestion for them. Depending on your security settings you could be exposed.
Thats a good one! I've had that happen to me a couple of times with SPs. Freaked the shit out of me.
 
Ok how about this one. When it comes to phones, go Android over iPhone. You have more control over Android, and there are more options out there to use to secure your hobby. Thing's like text/phone apps, secure folders, etc. All without rooting the phone.
 
Never realized MPA’s were willing to give numbers so never asked. During first lockdown realized how important it is to have numbers. Called a favourite spa on a hunch that maybe working secretly, no answer, about 10mins later bingo call back from number I didn’t recognize. Wasn’t going to answer but for some reason I did. It was attendant at spa. Favorite wasn’t working but she offers to see me. Took a chance and glad I did. She has now become a fav of mine. And she is also best friends with other fav at spa. Now I can get ahold of both.
When spas opened back up. Made it a point if I had a good session to go back a second or third time so they remember me and easily got numbers. Even had a couple offer there number to me when it looked like things were locking down.
This thread is one of the best I have come across. Wish it was around when I first started this hobby.
Great work
 
More or less using the internet, particularly your cellphone trails smoke on the web and the info remains in cyber space forever. With so many apps out there and internet and cellphone providers tracking everything , your cellphone becomes a lighthouse, a beacon with your name on it. However most of use are not important enough for the powers that be to be interested in tracking us, but if they want to they easily can. Stings can be set up quite easily. Also, webhave no control over how the sp who is corresponding with you stores your data or intentionally or unintentionally disburses it.

VPN offer more security but they are ways around those as well. In BC a few summers ago, I was at a table with an intoxicated RCMP officer who goes after cyber criminals, she was spouting some shop talked and she basically said that everything that internet and cellphone activity make her job much easier for many disturbing reasons.

I know a guy who was contacted by border patrol and customs to corroborate info found on an sp’s cellphone that was run at a border crossing.
 
Here's another tip for guys that like to stick with a few MPAs instead of trying a new one every time...

If you're looking to save a bit of money in the long run, sometimes it's better off starting with a low mileage session. If you like the MPA and she gives a good massage, then there's nothing wrong with having a lower mileage session anyways. Then over time, if there is a connection, your mileage will just naturally increase. It may even get to the point of what you would get at holistic places. If she digs you, there will never be mention of price...of course, up to you whether or not to give her more. I didn't do this approach intentionally but it has happened with quite a few MPAs already. I know they don't mind what I'm paying them either because if they don't see me for a while, they'll usually message me.

The 'mistake' I made with a few recent MPAs is getting very high level services right from my first visit. Since I didn't know the MPA, I tipped accordingly. Once you tip that amount, it's hard to go back because it sets the expectations with them.

No right or wrong approach, just depends on how you hobby...
let them quote yo the prices first and then negotiate if you want. Know the industry pricing is always an asset.
 
Now in a polyamorous relationship and the SO doesn’t care I hobby. Even told her about the bbfs and bbbj. She actually wants to experience a couples session. Lol. This is unchartered waters for me. Not sure how to proceed. I may just start collecting phone #s and see where it goes. I got the green light and do not know what to do. Lol. Hobby more? Find an actual girlfriend? 🤷‍♀️
 
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The most important tips are to always use a condom and negotiate in the beginning how much you are going to pay and what services will be provided, also never perform DATY as that is an easy way to get STD.
 
I managed to find current several MPA photos on wechat, online via their phone numbers. No, I won't post their pics here to protect their privacy.

As for getting the contact, the best is to see your favourite asap so that they will remember you. I managed to get numbers in the first session. You have to basically have to give the MPA incentive to give you the phone number in the first session (i.e. cutting off the middle man in order to save the mpas from commissions).

I usually find MPAs are reluctant to share their contact details on the first visit, it may be just me I guess, but mostly due to comfort level and privacy. You need to share your secret in breaking that barrier wink :). I am though able to get the contact details of the ones I want in repeat visits. Haven’t done it so often as it’s hard to find the true gems.
 
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Use Hobby name
Use Hobby number
Use Hobby email
Create hobby IG, twitter handles

Do all this on a hobby phone
Using hobby apps (like this one)
Stored in a secured folder app
Running on a VPN.

Dont mix the 2 lifestyles. One is real and one is fantasy.
 
I usually find MPAs are reluctant to share their contact details on the first visit, it may be just me I guess, but mostly due to comfort level and privacy. You need to share your secret in breaking that barrier wink :). I am though able to get the contact details of the ones I want in repeat visits. Haven’t done it so often as it’s hard to find the true gems.
i can understand why. A MPA was constantly harrassed with nasty text messages using burner phones after she rejected a threesome proposal at his place. i basically told her to change the phone number. problem solved. i also told her to give out the wechat account instead of phone number. That why she gets to control who to put on ignore list.
 
As we kick off another year, I thought it would be helpful to talk about the lessons we learned from our hobby experience. I've listed a few below to kick things off...

1. Set a budget and don't spend more than you can afford. Over time, your list of 'regulars' will grow. You don't want to be spending your rent money or kid's education on hobbying.

2. Have an escape plan in case you don't like what you see...e.g. have a name of an MPA working on another day, so if necessary, you can pretend to ask for that other MPA instead.

3. We all want to save money but don't haggle and don't be cheap. All these ladies talk to each other and you don't want to be labeled as a cheap ass. At a minimum, pay 'market' rates.

4. If you don't want your car caught on camera, park further away and walk there. Some guys even turn off their phone while driving there and leave it in the car too.

5. Get to know the owners...if the owner is to your liking, have sessions with her (less clock watching, private appts, etc.). Plus, they will let you come during lockdowns 🙂

6. Don't tell MPAs you know about this site (most are worried you will write something about them and will be more restrictive).

7. If you really like an MPA, get her contact info before she disappears one day.

8. Take reviews here with a grain of salt as some guys like to embellish or may have different tastes than you.

9. Don't over rely on the reviews here and go exploring on your own. I found most of my faves this way.
U are taking this too seriously
Have some frolic dude
Enjoy the life
Enjoy the massage hugs and kisses
Tip well
Respect them
 
As we kick off another year, I thought it would be helpful to talk about the lessons we learned from our hobby experience. I've listed a few below to kick things off...

1. Set a budget and don't spend more than you can afford. Over time, your list of 'regulars' will grow. You don't want to be spending your rent money or kid's education on hobbying.

2. Have an escape plan in case you don't like what you see...e.g. have a name of an MPA working on another day, so if necessary, you can pretend to ask for that other MPA instead.

3. We all want to save money but don't haggle and don't be cheap. All these ladies talk to each other and you don't want to be labeled as a cheap ass. At a minimum, pay 'market' rates.

4. If you don't want your car caught on camera, park further away and walk there. Some guys even turn off their phone while driving there and leave it in the car too.

5. Get to know the owners...if the owner is to your liking, have sessions with her (less clock watching, private appts, etc.). Plus, they will let you come during lockdowns 🙂

6. Don't tell MPAs you know about this site (most are worried you will write something about them and will be more restrictive).

7. If you really like an MPA, get her contact info before she disappears one day.

8. Take reviews here with a grain of salt as some guys like to embellish or may have different tastes than you.

9. Don't over rely on the reviews here and go exploring on your own. I found most of my faves this way.
Well said. I live my hobby life by 4. At Pure I park at the arena to the south and walk. I have tried with no luck
 
Don't get too enamoured with MPAs. If they do something with you, then they're doing it with others too. It's a business after all. Do your thinking with your head and not with your heart or dick. Avoid that rabbit hole and don't fall in.

On the note about getting to know owners, I'd say be careful there too. Owners care more about their business and money more than the average MPA and will say and do anything to get you hooked.
she love only your money thats all about.
 
As we kick off another year, I thought it would be helpful to talk about the lessons we learned from our hobby experience. I've listed a few below to kick things off...

1. Set a budget and don't spend more than you can afford. Over time, your list of 'regulars' will grow. You don't want to be spending your rent money or kid's education on hobbying.

2. Have an escape plan in case you don't like what you see...e.g. have a name of an MPA working on another day, so if necessary, you can pretend to ask for that other MPA instead.

3. We all want to save money but don't haggle and don't be cheap. All these ladies talk to each other and you don't want to be labeled as a cheap ass. At a minimum, pay 'market' rates.

4. If you don't want your car caught on camera, park further away and walk there. Some guys even turn off their phone while driving there and leave it in the car too.

5. Get to know the owners...if the owner is to your liking, have sessions with her (less clock watching, private appts, etc.). Plus, they will let you come during lockdowns 🙂

6. Don't tell MPAs you know about this site (most are worried you will write something about them and will be more restrictive).

7. If you really like an MPA, get her contact info before she disappears one day.

8. Take reviews here with a grain of salt as some guys like to embellish or may have different tastes than you.

9. Don't over rely on the reviews here and go exploring on your own. I found most of my faves this way.
mpa she love only your money that its.
 
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    SATURDAY at 💭DREAM INN WELLNESS SPA💭: ELSA, NINA & SUGAR. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON ☎️ 647-829-2983 ☎️ ELSA is slim, petite & very pretty student, esrly 20’s about 5’2” and 105 Lbs. Elsa has an innocent look about her, but she can drive you wild with pleasure, and provides a great massage. NINA is a young and beautiful Chinese lady, 168Cms,
  35. Lulu1980:
    Hi guys 🤪🤪🤪Phoenix blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹Tiffany sexy body big boobs 😘😘😘very good body slide 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹and Angela very good table shower😘😘😘😘😘 deep massage 👍👍👍👍5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke ☎️ 416-817-3366
  36. SunriseRH:
    SATURDAY at SUNRISE SPA: MIA, MICHELLE & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 647-325-8086 ☎️ MIA is a young Vietnamese beauty with the looks and the skills. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5’2” & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. SUMMER is a sweet Asian babe, 5’3” with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure,
  37. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Misaki & Tracy, Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Misaki is a young and beautiful real Japanese girl with natural 34DD Cups and a great body. She is open to bbbj, dfk and cfs
  38. NewOriental:
    SATURDAY at 🍏💚NEW ORIENTAL SPA💚🍏: HAPPY, LULU & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 647-381-2688 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times. PHOENIX is a gentle sweet Filipina lady, 5’4” and 105Lbs, with 34C-24-34 assets
  39. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(437) 818-8896☎️ ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Ivy ❤️ is new girl in our branch, shy and sweet but also very vocal and needy, she demands your happiness and satisfaction. Slim body, supple soft breasts with long nipples and a toned bum bum will have you intoxicated by Ivy’s good looks
  40. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️Lucy & Maggie. Lucy is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. Maggie is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like.
  41. Sparkling Spa:
    YOUNG GIRLS SUMMER AND FOX WAITING TO BLOW YOU AWAY @ SPARKLING SPA: JAP SENSATION CHANEL AND SASSY JENNIFER READY TO KNOCK YOU OUT ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
  42. bumika.vashi:
    (((आपको बिना नाटक या नखरे करने वाला सर्विस चाहे तोह याद करना. ))) If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it. Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not forget to
  43. Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
    💗💗💗 ℍ𝔸ℙℙ𝕐 𝕄𝔸𝕐 💗💗💗🌟🌟🌟 MAY 4th , SATURDAY 🌟🌟🌟 ☎️ (905) 707-6866 🕙🌟🌟🌟Open 10:30-10:00🗺#33-160 East Beaver Creek 🗺 7 Rms 🛏🌟🌟🌟Table Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, 🌟🌟🌟$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min 🌟🌟🌟Attendants: We have 4️⃣ today 🍀🍀🍀 🌹🆕 DAISY 🌹LILIAN 🌹🆕 TINA 🌹 🆕 NAT 🍀🍀🍀 NEWSFLASH 🍀🍀🍀 🆕 TINA & 🆕 NAT & 🆕 DAISY & LILIAN ‘ s BACK 🍀🍀🍀 TODAY 🍀🍀🍀
  44. Montreal 1969:
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  45. Lulu1980:
    Hi guys 🤪🤪🤪Phoenix blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹Mia sexy body big boobs 😘😘😘very good body slide 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹and Cici very good table shower😘😘😘😘😘 ,Helen Deep Tissue Massage👍👍👍👍5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke ☎️ 416-817-3366
  46. Aufan Spa:
    ❤️ SOFIE, ANGELA and MIMI are here today for your massage needs ❤️ AUFAN SPA ❤️ 635 PHARMACY ❤️ Scarborough ❤️ M1L 3H3 ❤️ (647) 557-1407❤️
  47. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇, Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel
  48. hiyamickey:
    7 young petite sexy girls working @Reynaella wellness Address: 3555 14th Ave unit #7 Markham ☎️:905-470-8082
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet cute Summer and young pretty fun Sally, young cute open mind Tina and beautiful GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available,350 Wilson Ave North
  50. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st # 203 /new Asian girl Yuki &Persian girl Jasmine today
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