Fewer massage visits

[Atsuko]

Not enough truly hot girls.

This is a big reason. Most of the truly hot girls do seekingarrangement or something else now and that is not likely to change. Guys have a hard time understanding how warped or desperate a woman has to be to work at a spa. Yes all women like money and many will sell themselves in some way to get it. But working at a spa means having intimate contact with endless lines of random strangers most of whom these girls would not even want to sit next to on a subway. It is also a health hazard. Spas are no longer a first choice for top workers or clients just like strip clubs no longer are.

 

[vanelric]

Level of safety ... ya gotta be kidding. Sp's shower between clients or with you.Also they rinse with mouthwashwith you before session. Mp's are rushed and you are more than likely exchanging fluids with the customer's before you.

Every MPA I've seen has showered immediately after the session, most use mouthwash. Some SP's don't shower between sessions, can't make a big generalization like this it depends on the place/girl.

 

[Sybarite]

Most of the truly hot girls do seekingarrangement or something else now and that is not likely to change.

What are the other options besides seekingarrangement the truly hottest girls are opting for now?

Where do guys find the hottest girls now beyond the spa, and what will that cost us?

 

[snoopdoggie]

How do I lie snoopbitch? Youre the lying sack of shit. Keep saying you actully review girls but don't have any reviews.

Look in the mirror, and find out for yourself. It's not my job to lecture you.

 

[snoopdoggie]

Just put him on ignore and let it go. Why waste your energy on someone useless? There's always moochers on these forums. I put all of them on ignore and if anyone PMs me with questions but no reviews, I tell them to fuck off.

Good idea. If you can't tell the truth, then keep your mouth shut.

 

[snoopdoggie]

Nothing to worry about. Too many important sporting events going on right now for guys to visit spas on a regular basis. Stanley Cup Playoffs, Toronto Raptors nearing a championship, Women's World Cup, Indianapolis 500 on Memorial Day weekend, are all keeping the guys away from the spas. Once these events are over, things will pick up. Blue Jays terrible performance will definitely help.

 

[goodtogo1962]

Every MPA I've seen has showered immediately after the session, most use mouthwash. Some SP's don't shower between sessions, can't make a big generalization like this it depends on the place/girl.

Pretty hard to deny a shower and mouthwash when she is beside you doing it as well. As far as spa girls showering it is a 50/50 chance to be honest.

 

[Leviathan]

So amusing. MPA vs SP sexperts debate. The MPA camp are delusional despite the fact there are pros and cons to both options.

Hands down. In general the SP experience far outweighs the mpa experience in privacy, discretion, convenience, security, consistency and quality relative to price. I’m not talking tier 3 shit. But the key is knowing which ones to goto .

And Im not talking about massage quality.

Lord Kray

 

[Leviathan]

Tell me about it. Yeah I’ve been dealt the LM and Lulu Tier C and D cards respectively to promote. I and WUT need to turn “frogs to princesses” . But it pays the bills and brings me one step closer to the crown jewel QQ

Lord Kray, resistance is futile Fei Fei will be assimilated

Kind of what someone mention before. One reason i’ll Never go to LuLuVilla is because they have Uglier girls asking for more money. They never seem to want to give you a flat rate and ask you how much you want to give them then give you a ridiculous price.

Yeah I’m good. Lots of places with better looking girls, better service and much better pricing. I’ve met girls who could probably get away with charging more but they are very far between and if you want repeat customers you need to give them quality or something they can’t get anywhere else.
Tbh it be a lot better if you gave the money to a receptionist that knew the girls prices and what she was willing and not willing to do. Even tiering the girls so girls with the best feed back or more thought after could get paid more, but how it is now is really bad.

 

[vanelric]

So amusing. MPA vs SP sexperts debate. The MPA camp are delusional despite the fact there are pros and cons to both options.

Hands down. In general the SP experience far outweighs the mpa experience in privacy, discretion, convenience, security, consistency and quality relative to price. I’m not talking tier 3 shit. But the key is knowing which ones to goto .

And Im not talking about massage quality.

Lord Kray

Sure but this isn't true across the board, it's subjective and it really depends on the place/girl and the client's preference. For example I live within walking distance of one the nicer MPs, so for convenience nothing can really top that for me. I'm not looking for FS so I don't see SP's, one experience doesn't have to be objectively better than the other it's just personal preference when you get down to it.

 

[Leviathan]

I said in “general” having done both over a course of a long period. With these open questions and responses of course there will be different criteria for individuals. Hence why a broad range of opinions. People will opine their own “world view”.

Sure but this isn't true across the board, it's subjective and it really depends on the place/girl and the client's preference. For example I live within walking distance of one the nicer MPs, so for convenience nothing can really top that for me. I'm not looking for FS so I don't see SP's, one experience doesn't have to be objectively better than the other it's just personal preference when you get down to it.

 

[vanelric]

I said in “general” having done both over a course of a long period. With these open questions and responses of course there will be different criteria for individuals. Hence why a broad range of opinions. People will opine their own “world view”.

And I'm saying you can't generalize like that, there's subjectivity and nuance to consider.

 

[altaguetta]

And I'm saying you can't generalize like that, there's subjectivity and nuance to consider.

If an SP lived close by you who would give you a great massage you would sing a different tune. Individual cases are not relevant.

 

[Leviathan]

You obviously fail to comprehend the full paragraph written.

I’m done on this.

Lord Kray

And I'm saying you can't generalize like that, there's subjectivity and nuance to consider.

 

[AthleticAF]

maybe you should change your user name to something else to avoid confusion.

Perhaps after doing the same thing over and over again make its dull.

Lol

 

[odinson]

Trust me. Nobody is watching and paying attention to this entire industry the way I do. I enjoy watching the show more than being in it.

Everything goes through a product life-cycle: introduction, growth, maturity, and decline.

Customers didn't want to pay $20 for a dance or $200 for extras. At the same time, internet marketing started growing and customers were now informed of the options, Backpages, Agencies and Parlours. Massage Parlours were not as risking as BP and Agencies, but better value then the Strip Clubs. It was the perfect middle ground.

Now, after 10+ years of accumulated knowledge of the industry, the customers are smarter and more calculated with their spending. Competition is more abundant. I see more talk about semi-legit places than actual Body Rub spas. MPs are turning into the strip clubs. Stagnant, no new ideas, pricey and sold out to the lie that extras keep customers.

All strip clubs are operating at a loss. And I'm telling you over 50% of licensed Spas are operating at a loss or near. Go check them out, most of them are dead even at peak times.

What's next? I'm won't go into full detail what I think, but overall I believe being independent and empowering yourself is the future.

I think the next best thing would be asian independent massages services, there are some but not nearly enough spread throughout the gta (especially east end). I think ppl are looking for something that feels more personal not the conveyor belt that your put on once you enter a mp.

 

[vanelric]

If an SP lived close by you who would give you a great massage you would sing a different tune. Individual cases are not relevant.

What do you mean, we're all individuals. Or course individual cases are relevant, every experience is an individual case. You're right about the SP thing if one was close by and I liked her, I'm not arguing that the MPA experience is "hands down" better than SPs I'm saying you can't objectively say one is better than another, that's up to the individual and not the collective.

 

[vanelric]

You obviously fail to comprehend the full paragraph written.

I’m done on this.

Lord Kray

Please enlighten me sir. Do you understand what I'm trying to say?

 

[c1000]

If you factor in CL, BP and LL, there are a lot of garbage out there in the SP world.

I'd rather be in a dispute with a parlour than an SP. Can you even dispute with an SP?

 

[Whitesnake1987]

This is true