Opening a massage shop

Liam

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Hi need to do some research here.

License

I read somewhere there is not a need for license is it ?
Just need to find a shop space, rent it with approval Reviewom the landlord.

Renovation, initial cost

Roughly how much do I expect my capital to be ? is 10k too little or need about 30k ?

Salary

How much do I need to pay my staff ? 10% or 30% of the massage rate ?

Opening hours

If no license is required, does that means I can open 24hours ?
 
I dun have ans to ur qns but then i support you to open 1 at bukit batok, cck area especially if u hv the intention of operating 24 hrs. Good luck. :)
 
You are a real joker...! No need license to open massage shop. Bro, this is Singapore not somewhere in vietnam or Cambodia.... Hahahahehehehohoho.
 
I've been thinking of setting up massage shop too so I've done researched previously. Let me help you to answer your question

1. Where do you get such an idea ? Of course you need a LICENSE to operate a massage shop. You do not need it if your staff is all vision-impaired and only do foot massage in very open environment.

Besides you need to apply a license Reviewom police, you also need written approval Reviewom building management, lease agreement with landlord plus approval Reviewom NEA. You need approval Reviewom NEA as not all places in singapore can have massage shops

2. Renovation cost - depends on what you want to setup and how big is your place. I don't think you need more than 10K. You mean you need 10K to buy 2 beds, chairs, 1 table and simple paintings of coat? Factor in 2K for designs layout to be sent for approval. But you can save that 2K if you know basic drawing - it's not difficult.

3. How much to pay? Depends on whether yours is clean or not :). For those extra services massage shops, mkt rate is each lady pay you $150 each day and you do not pay a single cent. On top of it, they need to pay you levy each month so that you can pay govt. If they are PR, they pay you the employer's CPF contribution to their account. After the lady pays you $150, whatever earnings (including entrance fee) she get each day belongs to her.

4. There are 2 CAT to massage establishment licenses. Most belong to those whereby you can only operate Reviewom 10am till 11pm only. If you want to have more flexible in opening hours, you need to apply for the higher CAT and one of the conditions is you must commit at least 50K in renovations, I think. This is usually for HCs
 
Thank u bro samsam33 !!! :)
1) Ok so i need a license indeed. But which come first ? Find a shop then get approval Reviewom building managment ? Apply for NEA then license or ?

2) Ok so less than 10k should be enough for a cosy place.

3) You mean the boss only collects $150 each Reviewom the ladies and nothing else ? The entrance fees goes to the ladies ? I thought the boss earns throught the entrance fees only.

4) Ok so its only 10am to 11pm only i guess.
 
1. First, you must secure the shop first. Concurrently, you should check with NEA whether you can setup massage at that place. They would not give you formal approval if you do not secure the shop. But to us, of course we must know whether we can get approval before we rent, right? So chicken and egg problem.

So official order is

1) Secure the place and sign the tenancy agreement
2) Get written approval Reviewom Building Mgt
3) Get NEA's approval
4) Submit 1, 2 & 3 to Police Licensing Division to get License approval

Above is official order but I think we must be street smart and do some of them in parallel.

Some PRC do not even do 1, 2, 3 & 4 and immediately get a place and start business. Of course, they kena big time if there is an av check.

2) 10K is more than enough unless you want it big and grand. I would advise you not to commit a lot of money in case no business or affected by raids.

3) By "right", boss collects entrance fee (in full) plus the misc fees for towels washing, air-con, electricity etc while girls collect extra services fee. But unless you're full-time at the place, how do you keep track how many customers walk-in? You may have 30 customers a day, but your girls tell you no business, only 5 customers and give you 5 x entrance fee. They will keep the 25 x entrance fees themselves.

Usually boss cannot be at the place full time to track no of customers because he could have other full-time job or he could own multiple shops. If own multiple shops, how could he be available at all shops at the same time?

So "standard practice" in the market is boss just collect $150-$200 Reviewom each girl each day (regardless of whether she works or not). Then how she works and how much she earns then is her issue. By adopting this standard, it become very easy to manage. Everyday (or every week), just collect the money in advance.

I'm sorry if I offend you by saying this, you look very new to this kind of business so you ask many novice questions. My advice to you is, you must be very street smart before you commit yourself. If not, easily conned by the PRCs :)

If you're lao jiao, you should know that besides collecting $150, you also need to collect towel fees, electricity fee etc plus levy fee + CPF contribution Reviewom the lady.

If not, you sure lugi. Not be taken in by their pity that they have to give you so much. They definitely can earn much more.

Assuming they only have 5 customers a day (quite below average), their daily earnings is 5x$30 entrance + 5x80-100 for extras = $650. 1 month = $13K (I count 1 month=20 days only)
 
Concise. Informative. Accurate.

Excellent replies my brother. A lot of my own questions were answered by you. Upz you and Cheers!!:D
 
Seems like a lot of other bros also like me, thinking of setting up a massage shop. Some PM me to ask some questions they feel cannot write it openly

I'm just wondering whether a few of us can pool in money to setup 1 together. Then can do it big or setup multiple joints at 1 go.
 
u forget to inform TS that girls need to attend massage lesson and get the cert...

in time to come they need to register all the girls name with the relevant dept? not too sure start already or not...
 
If massage shop set up lemme know. I'll b among the first group of supporter:D
 
bro chelsea is partly correct, generally ppl say no need lic.mean
no masg parlour act 173 lic, but still to apply for exemption notice
Reviewom police, its a letter, for open concept shop, cant put curtain
nor partition.
Mainly for foot msg joint, masseuse lic for worker not needed.
No need mas course, but later think rule will change.
Newbies shld try this type of shop, small capital.
But u must hv Reviewiend who are good reflexologists to prop u up.
Just in case u cant get worker.
U also need to know some local massage gal willing to work
with u, recruiting malaysian and pr, subject to mom quotas.
For salary norm is fifty percent comm to worker.

Reno, 10k is simple for open concept.
Add a few k, for yr chair n bed, plus a lcd tv, lighting, water
dispenser, counter.
 
Hi TS,

Bro Sam2 has saved you quite a lot of effort on research.

I have following points to add:-
1) When you sign a tenancy agreement with the landlord, he usually will make you sign, at least, 1year tenure. If you want to wind down the shop, TOUCH WOOD :p, say 2 months down the road, he may have a clause in the tenancy that requires you to pay him the remaining 10 months worth of rental. Hence, do really ponder thoroughly before you jump onto the wagon.

2) Touch wood again. :p What if your gal/gals get caught red-handed by AV while doing special services. Do you have any contingency plans to tackle this issue. Are you gonna face the laws on your own?

Good luck.
 
Point 2 is a very good point for you, TS to think deep about it. What's your contingency and response plan?

You must be prepared to face the risk that your gals would testify against you. This probability is very high as when they testify you, they can prolong their stay in singapore since it takes time for the court case.
 
This is one of the lesser concerns as certs can be easily purchased Reviewom bugis or 1 of the shopping centre in chinatown.
 
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    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  36. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY (12PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  37. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธMilly Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  38. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธMonikaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  39. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Luna, Cindy, Coco,Cici, Jenny, Amber, JPN Yui, Akino, Jasmine & Lucyโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  40. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  41. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl gaga Serving The Queen ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Bunny- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  42. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  43. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, PAOLA, MALIYA, MONIKA, AMANDA, ASHA, JAZMINE, PREETI, ANGELINA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  44. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  45. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy face young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐ŸŒนvery nice new girl CiCi, amazing the end,give you warm time,must try๐ŸŒน๐Ÿฅค
  46. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (11am-8pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. DORIS (12pm-9pm): from Taiwan, is young & petite with loing thick black hair, 105 Lbs
  47. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Sexy Petite Korean๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ทGirl Eva working with Sweet Beautiful Japanese New Cummer to Canada Feifei ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต and Sensual Pleasing Busty Coco๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณtoday๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Call or text ๐Ÿ“ฒ647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879๐Ÿ“ฒ
  48. EMSpa_schedule:
    Hey! Where have you been? Today (Wednesday), our amazing attendants are Carla โ€, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Opal ๐Ÿคฉ, Sandy ๐Ÿค— and Yoyo ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, KIKI & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is slim & incredibly sexy
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