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I ordered some Black Ginger from Amazon and tried it this week. The result has been a lot of diarrhea, bloating and exhaustion, and no positive affects. It could be that I personally cannot handle it, or it does not mix well with the other products I ingest. It could also be a fake product. It came in the form of a black powder that smells like tea.
Be careful with certain "natural" products and potential drugs you already take, they may not agree with body chemistry.
 
Be careful with ginseng, and certain drug interactions.
I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs.

Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help.

 
I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs. Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help. I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs. Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help. I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs. Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help.
I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs.

Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help.

I've used ginseng, but the type is important, for me anyway.
I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs.

Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help.

Ive used it before, my Chinese friend hides it out back in his grocery store, he says for his special round eye friends, who knows he could be poisoning me slowly..lol
 
Yikes!

I am staying away from that!
ive found that after trying alot of supplements they are hit and miss and since everyones level of absorption are different , you really could be wasting time. i

ZMA at night seems to give me good morning wood.
anyone have any experiences with other vitamins you can get over the counter like Vitamin E or B12 ?
 
I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs. Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help. I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs. Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help. I just think of it as a food with nutrients, but apparently it interacts with some drugs. Too bad for people taking those drugs, they likely need some help.
I've used ginseng, but the type is important, for me anyway.

Ive used it before, my Chinese friend hides it out back in his grocery store, he says for his special round eye friends, who knows he could be poisoning me slowly..lol
I think Korean ginseng is the best.

I did try buying a fresh ginseng root in Chinatown but perhaps the Chinese people who sold it to me are laughing.
 
ive found that after trying alot of supplements they are hit and miss and since everyones level of absorption are different , you really could be wasting time. i

ZMA at night seems to give me good morning wood.
anyone have any experiences with other vitamins you can get over the counter like Vitamin E or B12 ?

Magnesium makes my erections firmer (that's the M in ZMA). Vitamin D3 makes them last longer. Vitamin K2 MK-7 cleared my arteries to get rid of my old age ED. Dark chocolate helps. It contains a vasodilator called theobromine. One teaspoon of nutmeg powder gives a boost about four hours later. It tastes terrible. I've read some good things recently about Kyolic aged garlic extract, but haven't tried it.

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I ordered some Black Ginger from Amazon and tried it this week. The result has been a lot of diarrhea, bloating and exhaustion, and no positive affects. It could be that I personally cannot handle it, or it does not mix well with the other products I ingest. It could also be a fake product. It came in the form of a black powder that smells like tea.
So, I found out it was not the Black Ginger that was giving me trouble. In fact I was over doing magnesium. Apparently 2 grams a day is way too much. I stopped the magnesium and all the problems went away. I will start taking magnesium again in a couple of weeks but at a much smaller dose in the evenings.
 
Korean Red Ginseng extract improved my erections but made my prostate swell up so bad I couldn't empty my bladder. Ginseng is known to increase estrogen.
Ginseng is pretty legendary among Koreans. If I go to the korean supermarket asking for it, the ladies all give me this knowing look.
 
just ordered a t booster from Amazon. had some good reviews so I will try since Im running out of. black ginger... lol see if it's good. has a red bull head on a black bottle. from rise nutrition
 
just ordered a t booster from Amazon. had some good reviews so I will try since Im running out of. black ginger... lol see if it's good. has a red bull head on a black bottle. from rise nutrition
Any news?
 
MSOG wise I have been in a slump lately (stress, maybe age catching up with me, experiments with supplements back-firing). A strategy that works to up the intensity and enjoyment is for me now is to wait longer between ejaculations. After a day I am a little frustrated, after two days very frustrated and after three days I am kind of desperate. At the three day mark the condom does not impede my enjoyment, a lot comes out of me, the orgasm is really intense and after I am so sensitive that it is painful. After the session I then knock one or two more out at home, and they are just as intense. And I notice with SWs when I am more "desperate" they feel more desired and the session is overall better. Chocolate cake is nice everyday, but great if you have not had it for a while. It may have something to do with dopamine (the reward neurotransmitter). I heard recently that constantly elevated levels of dopamine are actually toxic to neurons. Fun stops being as much fun when you do fun stuff all the time. So with that in mind, it is better to rest two days and cum three times on the third day, than it is to cum once a day for three days. At least for me at this point in my old age. For younger or healthier guys that feeling of desperation might come much faster. However long it takes (days or hours), if you can wait until you need sex rather than just wanting it, both you and your partner or SW will enjoy it more.
 
I was reading somewhere that dopamine boosters like mucuna pruriens need to be cycled. After a period of continuous use they backfire, by reducing your body's natural production. The best dopamine booster is a new partner. It's responsible for the Coolidge effect.

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I was reading somewhere that dopamine boosters like mucuna pruriens need to be cycled. After a period of continuous use they backfire, by reducing your body's natural production. The best dopamine booster is a new partner. It's responsible for the Coolidge effect.

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I can personally attest to the Coolidge Effect from my FFM threesome last summer,
 
I seem to be having the opposite problem for my last few sessions: finishing too quickly when the fun has barely started. I usually plan a "tactical nuke" about an hour before a session but it doesn't help. Any tips? Sorry for somewhat derailing the conversation but there seems to be good discussion happening here.
 
I seem to be having the opposite problem for my last few sessions: finishing too quickly when the fun has barely started. I usually plan a "tactical nuke" about an hour before a session but it doesn't help. Any tips?

Try more nukes. You might need to start sooner, possibly even the day before. I've also read some interesting reports of a product called Pau Yuen Tong (PYT) balm. It is a numbing balm that uses clove oil as the active ingredient. There are some great reviews and some poor ones. The great reviews seem to indicate that you have to use the correct application procedure. Supposedly, if you get it right, you can last a long time without loss of sensation. I haven't tried it. You can buy it on Amazon.
 
I was reading somewhere that dopamine boosters like mucuna pruriens need to be cycled. After a period of continuous use they backfire, by reducing your body's natural production. The best dopamine booster is a new partner. It's responsible for the Coolidge effect.

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Any suggestions about cycles, say four weeks on, one week off?
 
Any suggestions about cycles, say four weeks on, one week off?

For mucuna the recommendation seems to be 5 days on, then 2 days off. After three weeks of that, take a whole week off. For maca there are different suggestions. Take a week off every month, or two months on, one month off. Some say one day off per week. idk
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Jennifer๐Ÿ˜˜- A busty curvy new girl from Taiwan with excellent massage skills and a fun bubbly personality. Nice thick bum to worship and play with. A fun wild girl willing to provide an exciting happy finish anyway you like ๐Ÿ˜˜Real picture
  31. GoldenFlower:
    ๐Ÿ’›โญ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒป๐™‚๐™Š๐™‡๐˜ฟ๐™€๐™‰ ๐™๐™‡๐™Š๐™’๐™€๐™ ๐™Ž๐™‹๐˜ผ๐ŸŒป๐ŸŒŸโญ๐Ÿ’› 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿณ MONDAY at๐Ÿ’›โญ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒปGOLDEN FLOWER SPA๐ŸŒป๐ŸŒŸโญ๐Ÿ’›, 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777Jojo, Mika, Sherry & Tracy. Jojo is a beautiful young fair skinned Hong Kong girl who can melt all your cares away. .Mika is a sexy petite Vietnamese lady
  32. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Zoe ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  33. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  34. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty student Vivian and young fun Tina open mind with 36DD, Cute GFE Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage. Pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  35. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALAY, MONIKA, AMANDA, ANAYA, AAVI, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  36. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  37. Dreaminn:
    MONDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: AMY, MIMI & VIVI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ AMY is a sweet and friendly Chinese vixen, 158Cms, 115Lbs, with C Cups and very willing to please. MIMI is a cute young Asian lady with a medium build,167Cms, 110Lbs, D Cups & very open minded services. VIVI is a very cute and young lady
  38. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAMY, CINDY & LUCY AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  39. SunriseRH:
    MONDAY at SUNRISE SPA: EMILY, MICHELLE & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-325-8086 โ˜Ž๏ธ EMILY is a beautiful Asian lady, 36C-29-29, 5โ€™4โ€ & 110Lbs, with a sensual touch. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5โ€™2โ€ & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. SUMMER is a sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€ with a captivating 36D-28-39
  40. Peony Garden Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ3 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY ๐ŸŒธ HELEN: A YOUNG TALL AND SLIM VIETNAMESE GIRL WITH A VERY LUSCIOUS BODY, 5'7 WITH AN INCREDIBLE BEHIND ๐ŸŒธ JENNY: A TALL AND SLIM KOREAN GIRL THAT IS A TOTAL SERVICE QUEEN ๐ŸŒธ ELLA: A PETITE YOUNG CHINESE GIRL THAT IS A POPULAR FAVOURITE ๐ŸŒธ PEONY GARDEN SPA ๐ŸŒธ 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 ๐ŸŒธ (416) 335-6093 ๐ŸŒธ
  41. NewOriental:
    MONDAY at NEW ORIENTAL SPA: HAPPY, HANNA & LULU. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-381-2688 โ˜Ž๏ธ HANNA is a young, tall & slim Vietnamese honey with great skills & attitude. HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  42. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Bella &new girl Kitty. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage. Kitty is a very cute & young Petite Vietnamese lady with decent massage skills and very wild services.
  44. Sparkling Spa:
    SPARKLING SPA 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT 8!! INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FOR A VARIETY OF APPETITES!! KOREAN NYMPHO SUMMER & SHANGHAI SENSATION JENNIFER!!!โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
  45. Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’— โ„๐”ธโ„™โ„™๐• ๐•„๐”ธ๐• ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ MAY 13th , MONDAY ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 707-6866 ๐Ÿ•™๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸOpen 10:30-10:00๐Ÿ—บ#33-160 East Beaver Creek ๐Ÿ—บ 7 Rms ๐Ÿ›๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸTable Shower(TS)+Massage * 2hr $120* (Appt. Only) , TS & massage 1hr $90, ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸAttendants: We have 5๏ธโƒฃ today ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• DAISY ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• RICA ๐ŸŒน SOPHIE ๐ŸŒนSENECA ๐ŸŒน LUCY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ NEWSFLASH ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ ๐Ÿ†• RICA & SOPHIE & ๐Ÿ†• DAISY & SENECA โ€˜ s BACK ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ TODAY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€
  46. Sparkling Spa:
    SPARKLING SPA 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT 8!! INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FOR A VARIETY OF APPETITES!!!! VIET SERVICE QUEEN JENNY AND HK HOTTIE FOX!!!โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
  47. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel & Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  48. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธevery day 3 girls ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนCoco.Jessica.Cici very good service massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜table shower body scrub 5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366
  49. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 7 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MALAY, MONIKA, KIRAN, MIMI, NISHA, ANAYA, YAYAL PEARL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  50. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
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