Any advice for an HIV positive client

so that s Any advice for an HIV positive client

It's so common for us therapists to use OTC or prescription drugs to mask the symptoms of illness, that on any given day we might be the only one who knows we're sick.

I have to say that I *never* take OTC or prescription drugs, my partner who is also a Therapist does not either and half of the other dozens of therapists we know in our community don't either...the other half do so only rarely! Is it really "so common" for Massage Therapists and those in the health fields to suppress symptoms with drugs? My sweetie and I *never* get sick and neither does my daughter (or the other MT's and healers I know who don't use drugs). ย 

ย Make sure that there is a cushion of time before and after her appointment so that she doesn't have to risk encountering your other clients germs especially if you have a pre-natal client that she might encounter (since they are hosts for a lot of germs, due to lack of being able to medicate themselves))

:o

So much of the rest of your post resonated with me so well...this above part, however just doesn't seem to find a home in my mind ย :-/

Following your reasoning, since I don't medicate myself (like the pregnant women you have mentioned) *I* am a "host of germs"?

By the way, pregnant women commonly take a whole host of medications; I work as a Doula and some of my clients have been on the following: Trazedone, Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft, Atavan, Neurontin, Insulin, Synthroid, Lithium, Erythromyacin, Penicillin, Zithromax, Diflucan and more...

Just curious if I'm reading this wrong :)
 
IntuitiveHealers -That statement was given directly by my professor who has a very large practice involving Cancer, HIV, and prenatal clients. ย The statement was written with the idea that one who is pregnant can not take any medications to treat themselves if they have an infection without risking their unborn child. ย I myself suffered from a horrible sinus infection and also broke my wrist while I was pregnant... and couldn't take a single thing as per my OB/GYN. ย The risk is just a lot higher for pregnant women to spread their germs to an unknowing HIV patient because they can not be treated properly unless it is a life or death situation. ย I would not risk having one of my HIV clients sit waiting while potentially being exposed to germs which could easily be avoided.
 
The point I was getting at was that we are far more potentially dangerous to them than they are to us. I'm in reasonably good health. I haven't felt the need to visit a Dr. since I can't remember when. I find it hard to believe that the majority of all health care workers drop all thier appointments, or stay home from work because they feel a "bit of a sniffle" coming on. Not many people put the world on hold because they have a low grade headache that they expect to pass really soon. Few have ever said, "Cancell all of my appointments, I have a bit of indigestion." ย I have a strong immune system. I almost never get sick. I know that what may be just a tickle in my throat or the littlest sniffle, may be a nasty flu that will never affect me. ย The average person experiences salmonella 100 times durring his or her life. But it usually only presents itself as a vague queezy feeling or transient loose stoole. ย I refuse to believe that I'm the only one who's ever used a cold/allergy tab, or used the odd aspirin here or there. There are times when I know that my immune system is fighting something, but there's rarely any way of saying what. ย What we with normal immune systems may pass off as a vague yucky feeling may prove fatal to someone with a compromised immune system, wether it's from HIV+, organ/marrow transplant, or whatever other cause. ย Even if frequent hand washing and keeping a hygenic environment kill 99.9% of all pathogens, there's still that small but important window of risk. So, yes I think disclosure is important. And no, I dont think that a medical history form magically removes the ethical responsibility to complete honesty. If some one feels a need to lie, they should do it on resumes and tax forms like everyone else.
 
I agree... we pose more of a risk to our HIV+ clients than vice versa. ย If they choose not to tell us their status... then I guess they are taking their chances. That's their choice, its not ours to decide. ย  What about our ethical obligation to not pose a health risk to any of our clients. ย When we are fighting off some bug or other, but feel well enough to continue... do we disclose to ย our clients, and let them choose the risk? ย We all have at least one or two fragile clients whose constitutions may be more susceptible than our own. ย If it would be a risk to one, is it not a risk to all. ย  In other words...consider that all of our clients are immuno-compromised. ย If you're not healthy enough to ethically work on them, then...I agree that we have few rolemodels out there in the world for people who shut down their lives when they get sick... and hence lots more people get sick... I'm still looking for the good that comes of this heroic effort ย  ::)
 
Any advice for an HIV positive client

You're right, if they want to take that risk it is their choice. My insurance. But their choice.
 
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    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St, Vaughan ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI (Vietnam/HK), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY (Philippines/VN), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY (Singapore) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  39. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA (Iran), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿฆฉ bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  40. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  41. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Cici Cute Vietnamese Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girl Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  42. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Singapore ๐Ÿ’–Filipino ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  43. Annie Spa:
    Gorgeous Young New Tight Korean Butt Yumi working with Sexy Young Sweet Summer and Sensual & Pleasing Busty Boobs Coco today. Call or text 647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธโœ…โœ…
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer, Sophia & Cindy. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Fiona. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Molly 25โ€™s with big buttocks open mind and young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body, young flirty Ivy with 36DD curve body open mind 30โ€™s and cute GFE cute are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa has 3 beauties to choose from today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. LINA (12:30pm-9pm): is a young Hispanic girl, hot body, C Cups
  48. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CHRISTINA & HANA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. HANA is slim
  49. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ100 hh all in๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 9 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ YUKI, PAOLA, AMMU, MONIKA, ANNA, MEGAN, ANAYA, NUR ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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