Poll Do you think the Trump insurrectionists have blown their wad?

[altaguetta]

This fake insurrection was a nice false flag operation. Too bad Trump and Co. were too stupid not to expect it. What the hell was he thinking???

He's even trying to ban Chinese apps like WeChat and TikTok so that people can't send messages to each other. Dumb move.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1347961733089009665

 

[altaguetta]

 

[altaguetta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1348085840153628673

 

[stripfan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1348085840153628673

"Big Tech" is code for billionaire Jews who run all the tech companies, without exception. Now they want to run the country, as well.

 

[Nanziqi]

I don't think any arrests were made, have they? Until those people are put away, there's always potential they can come back and do worse things, either at the inauguration or at other times. I just hope security won't be caught with their pants down, like they did last week.

They are rumors that the rioters are planning to do it again on the 17, I hope, like you say this time security is ready for
them.

 

[altaguetta]

Biden is a zionist!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1348318041499607041

 

[stripfan]

Biden is a zionist!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1348318041499607041

He's going to prove he's a real zionist by starting a war with Iran, for which he'll be richly rewarded.

 

[altaguetta]

He's going to prove he's a real zionist by starting a war with Iran, for which he'll be richly rewarded.

No, Iran is a friend.

 

[altaguetta]

That's some unity for you...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1348460550129414145

 

[AthleticAF]

You left out a 5th possibility, Trump will get kicked out of office, biden will become president and make it mandatory they everyone at make the first 100 days which he's already stated.
Those who hate biden will refuse, that will cause a shit storm. Then add to that, another black person will be killed by police or something along those lines and the racial tension will only get worse. (Or somethin race related will trigger some kind of unrest where biden will bring in the national guard and/or make curfews happen).

Quebec was a soft sell to North Americans that curfews will be a thing.
Ontario is next.

 

[altaguetta]

They didn't fail to act...

They didn't SEEM to act which is already suspicious.

Only a retard thinks that the Deep State didn't use this event for their purpose. Just look at the results.

They planted their own actors (Antifa, BLM) into the crowd. They were let in to the building by the Capitolium police and they did what they had to do.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1348391945522073608

 

[altaguetta]

Fascism is already here. Stop wondering.


The fascist Antifa warriors (which is just an "idea", not an organization apparently) will play a big role in fighting the possible US resistance movement and INTIMIDATING the average citizen.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1348305408696446976

 

[stripfan]

Fascism is already here. Stop wondering.


The fascist Antifa warriors (which is just an "idea", not an organization apparently) will play a big role in fighting the possible US resistance movement and INTIMIDATING the average citizen.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1348305408696446976

Antifa are the preferred thugs of the Dems because they can do lawless things that the Dems can plausibly deny.

 

[altaguetta]

Antifa are the preferred thugs of the Dems because they can do lawless things that the Dems can plausibly deny.

When Biden is the president the DEMS can't deny anything if they allow them to operate.

 

[altaguetta]

Antifa, the domestic terrorist organization loved by Twitter and the democRats.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1348381475855618049

 

[sy barite]

I confess I've not read this thread, I'm posting only to comment on the choice of the word "insurrection" in the title.

To believe this was an insurrection and label it as such requires unquestioning acceptance of what is being reported in the media. I don't think reading Trump's actual statement could bring you to that conclusion. Did Trump say untrue things and use irresponsible language for a leader? Yes of course he did. Could his language have egged on the wilder supporters to break the law? Yes. But did he tell anyone to storm the Capitol building and use force? Not to my knowledge. This morning I read the full transcript of his statements to the crowd which had gathered to protest. A full transcript (btw) has not been readily shared by most legacy media and the video of his speech was actually banned on Twitter and Facebook. Think about that...and the fact that the majority is ok with it. Astonishing.

If you maintain Trump broke the law here, please explain why and how. As well, be prepared to explain why we should not apply the same judgment to the scores of Dem politicians who over the last year have encouraged and supported the BLM and Antifa protests that have caused so much damage and injury.

 

[UsefulIdiot]

I confess I've not read this thread, I'm posting only to comment on the choice of the word "insurrection" in the title.

To believe this was an insurrection and label it as such requires unquestioning acceptance of what is being reported in the media. I don't think reading Trump's actual statement could bring you to that conclusion. Did Trump say untrue things and use irresponsible language for a leader? Yes of course he did. Could his language have egged on the wilder supporters to break the law? Yes. But did he tell anyone to storm the Capitol building and use force? Not to my knowledge. This morning I read the full transcript of his statements to the crowd which had gathered to protest. A full transcript (btw) has not been readily shared by most legacy media and the video of his speech was actually banned on Twitter and Facebook. Think about that...and the fact that the majority is ok with it. Astonishing.

If you maintain Trump broke the law here, please explain why and how. As well, be prepared to explain why we should not apply the same judgment to the scores of Dem politicians who over the last year have encouraged and supported the BLM and Antifa protests that have caused so much damage and injury.

Rudy Giuliani called for trial by combat. Donald Trump Jr talked of zeros and heroes in congress. Trump used the word "fight" nineteen times, lied about winning a landslide election and then pointed the ginned up crowd at the Capitol building. All of them used aggressive, inciting language. Their are numerous videos of the crowd interpreting the messages as calls to storm the Capitol Building.


I believe in justice, not taking sides. For me power comes with responsibility - the more power you have, the more responsibility you have. If you "yell fire in a crowded theatre", then you are responsible for the ensuing chaos, especially if you are a powerful and influential leader. If the Dems have incited riots or given their tacit approval to illegal acts then let them stand trial. If you have doubts about Trump's complicity then let him and his cohorts stand trial and make their cases. Five people died, many were injured, and the faith in democracy was shaken. There must be justice. It is the opinion of many that the riot was the inevitable result of a gullible and disenfranchised part of the US that have been lied to and manipulated for years, not just the words of incitement spoken that day. To be fair it is not just Trump and the Republicans that are at fault, but also right wing extremists (who have always been there). I really do not think you, Trump, and his supporters can successfully apply nuance and weasel words to absolve Trump and his cohorts. If you want to take the stand that we are in a moment of shock and a little time is needed for justice to be applied fairly, then I would agree with you. But in the meantime the president should be prevented from making and major moves until his time in office is over.

 

[Deleted member 64273]

OMG, the jokes in this thread are hilarious! What's with all the posts to fake news? It always amused me that those decrying fake news are the ones propagating it the most.

 

[sy barite]

Right. So I'm sure you'd be ready to apply the same methods of "measuring responsibility" to Democrat politicians and media figures who for a year have been excusing and even encouraging protests that have resulted in violence night after night. Where was the outcry over that? I guess you have never heard a Democrat use the word "fight" or other comparable rhetoric? Please, the double standard is ridiculous.

Moreover, it is unwise. Power will eventually swing back to the other side. If Democrats proceed with vindictive trials and use their present control of the government to follow through on things like stacking the court or ending the filibuster, they will find they've put some pretty nasty tools into the hands of Republicans.

 

[UsefulIdiot]

Right. So I'm sure you'd be ready to apply the same methods of "measuring responsibility" to Democrat politicians and media figures who for a year have been excusing and even encouraging protests that have resulted in violence night after night. Where was the outcry over that? I guess you have never heard a Democrat use the word "fight" or other comparable rhetoric? Please, the double standard is ridiculous.

Moreover, it is unwise. Power will eventually swing back to the other side. If Democrats proceed with vindictive trials and use their present control of the government to follow through on things like stacking the court or ending the filibuster, they will find they've put some pretty nasty tools into the hands of Republicans.

Yes right! Bring on justice and apply it fairly to all. If the Dems have culpability let them face the consequences. Bring it on. Keep in mind the BLM movement is about social justice, and the MAGA movement is only about Trump. I have no loyalty to party, country comes first. The whole system needs a house cleaning. Too many want the privilege of power and not the responsibility. And they need to get money out of politics, it is way too corrupting. Raising money not only skews political positions, but it takes so much of politician's time and energy that they cannot possibly do the best job for their country.