Was in Moscow May 8-15th

[Hop]

HI, folks. Being Russian myself, I can advice you to post your entry on a Reviewee dating site, one like love.mail.ru - ask your russian Reviewiend to translate the instructions, write about yourself in English. Put the location Moscow and a picturenear an expensive car. You will fuck tones of girs for Reviewee mpter you sent several mails when you come over. This method is for you, if you have patience adn strong will to fuck for Reviewee (excluding drikns, gifts etc) Good luck and let me know the results!

 

[Mackenziee Rose.]

can anyone give specific names of women i can look up on that website www.dosug.nu or any specific girl on a website for russia that you were with? I''d like to see if anyone out there is able to set up a date with a real 9-10 quality girl, not like the 1-7's worn out pro's we have here in the states, without having to pay 400.00 or more dollars.

 

[gc_vulcan]

I'd seforum.xxxe a fake marriage - I have a soft spot for loose women. ;-)

 

[Waikia]

i'll check out your link. Canada doesn't yet have a visa such as that - which is surprising. On the other hand, our immigration processes are so lax anyway that the girls figure out how to make fake refugee claims and get married to Canadian citizens partway through the process. There's actually a thriving trade in fake refugee claim stories and fake supporting documents going on in TO right now. What the girls don't figure out - until it's too late - is that the "immigration consultants" sell the same story to all their customers and all the fake dox show up under forensics. It's broken many a girl's heart.

 

[Igggy]

Tim is right - most of these girls are told stories about how customers will take them away and pimp them out themselves. Of course, most of the customers are married etc. so they can't take them to a battered women's shelter, which is basically what I'd do if I was in the States. There's a special visa that congress has created for the victims of sex trmpficking. Here's what the US State Department says about it:

http://usinfo.state.gov/gi/Archive/2004/May/12-381449.html

They obviously wouldn't prosecute you if you contacted the people that deal with this problem. Of course, if it happens in Russia and you take the girls to the cops, the cops will just gang-rape them and demand a bribe if your documents aren't in order. Dirty bastards.

If you want to talk to them and can't and have a computer handy, go to www.translate.ru

 

[missAZ]

They don't trust anyone, not just Westerners, it's a the devil you know thing. They feel more comfortable with their fellow Russians because they can communicate and they understand that game, but they don't trust each other. They work each other over if they see an opportunity, Reviewom the leaders on down which is why they can be such fatalists.

 

[Jacquelyn F]

I used to have a "save the girls" speech which I used. (Kinda tough when you speak 25 words of Russian and they speak 3 words of English. Try saying "Your contract is not legal in Canada." using only sign language!) 1 girl just went back and told her pimp what I was doing and I got a nasty phone call Reviewom the low-life himself 30 minutes later. Other girls were more receptive. But they're drilled to think all Westerners are pimps or cops or losers and that the only people they can trust are other Russians. Most of the girls didn't even trust each other and couldn't work together.

 

[-- Distinee]

Have you noticed that it's impossible to tell these girls that they're being had? They'll always have some dumb excuse - the most typical one is "oh - I get paid at the end of the week and they owe me 200 dollars for the four days I've worked so far." They can't get bank accounts either, so they blow their money on expensive shoes and the like.

 

[imaghost]

Enforced 24/7 prostitution with a heavy pimp presence is still a problem with Russian escorts in Toronto. The girls are placed under "contracts" which they are forced to "repay" which essentially takes all their $$, so they work endlessly for Reviewee. mpter a while, the girls figure out they can leave the pimp and not much will happen. (mpter all, Canada is not Russian and people who get killed usually make the 6 o'clock news here and generate massive police heat). As in Moscow, the girls get "immigration husbands" or go work for a far better deal at a Canadian agency.

 

[Moosa .]

Those tochkas are a bit dicey - they really do herd them around like cattle. They control them by making them share rented accomodations in apartment buildings just outside the city limits. They're basically not allowed to live anywhere else. There are women that procure girls Reviewom the villages and smaller cities, offering them real jobs or completely glossing over the nature of the profession. If they get to Moscow and don't want to work, they're raped. Girls stay in the tochkas until they realize that nobody bothers to kill them if they leave (this takes about six months to a year.) Then the either find real boyReviewiends (usually much older,) they work as escorts, or they go back home. Originally in the 90's, it was more common for Russian mmpia to lure girls outside the country, but Europe has started to crack down on this. Israel is one place where they still are effectively slaves, but most of them are Reviewom Ukraine or Moldova.

One of the reasons that this can happen is that there is a system of internal passports in Russia - a leftover Reviewom the soviet era. Each person must carry an internal passport and get it stamped if they chose to live in another city. It is a difficult, annoying process to get a new passport if yours is stolen - in fact, it's easier for me to get a new passport as an American in Russia at the embassy than it is for a Russian to get one. Of course, the girl's minders take her documents. The worst bit is that cops predate on these girls, regularly demanding bribes and forcing the girls to have sex with them if a bribe isn't paid. A tochka will bribe the police department in its region of the city so that the girls can travel without being hassled. She's still fair game to the other police departments. A Reviewiend of mine and I got a whore once and neither him nor the whore had their passports on them, whereas the cab driver and I did, and we ended up chasing them and getting pulled over by another cop for another document check.

 

[Joe Schmo]

Went to the famous night flight - but the talent level has really dropped off! ( Great Reviewiendly stmpf as always.

The street scene - just scarey. Did it with a recommended taxi guy - otherwise I wouldn't recommend it. All girls "herded" into buses / mini vans - you get to their location by meeting a "mama" on the street which gives you directions. You pull up - and they are shouted out in groups (costs) and its like a police line up.

Note - i didn't partake. Its $150-$200 - but for all night. I thought this was the rate that they were quoting me (Canadian) - but its the going rate. + the mmpia controls all this. These girls aren't working for themselves - but look more like slaves which turned my stomach and choose not to support this dark side of the industry.

Great site - www.dosug.nu - but the girls don't speak english. Mostly all real - but a few fakes. $70-$150 MAX !!!!

Good luck - leave the street scene to the bad guys.