Seeking help treating stiff necks

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I was wondering if any of you here could share some information regarding what you have found successful in treating really stiff necks. You now, the dreaded "torticollis" clients. I feel like my work in this area could use some improvement so any help would be appreciated.

If you could recommend any DVD's, books, classes or protocols I would be very grateful. I have been treating people with this for years and sometimes I can make it better and other times I am not sure I have made any difference at all and that's frustrating.

Anybody got an magic fool proof remedies they'd like to share?
 


Breathing exercises during stretches. Inhale, hold the breath, then they exhale as you work your hand down the length of their neck, on into their traps, to their shoulder.

Work each muscle in the neck, working both up and down in your strokes. Release each TrPt.

There's a gruesome one just below and to the left and right of the client's neck that I work supine. Once you've contacted it, have them shrug their shoulder up toward their head--a fellow MT showed me that one, and it dang near killed me, but it cleared it out like nothing else.

Subscaps are crucial on about 95% of the people I work on. Work medially and laterally.

Finally, as odd as it may sound, clear the TrPts at the medial tendons just below the knees. My clients report on a regular basis how effective it is, and when it was done to me, I could actually feel my neck releasing.

That's my two cents...
 


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....CranioSacral Therapy. I know, shocking isn't it?
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CST helps to address the muscular and facial component as well as the nervous system involvement - helping release facilitated segments. Working with imagery and dialogue can help the release process.

Also, if the torticollis is acquired (vs congenital) CST can help find and release the underlying cause allowing for more effective treatment of the symptoms.

From a massage perspective it is very important to work the SCM (as well as scalenes, traps, etc,etc.) on the effected side. Massage and facilitated stretching can be very effective. It can be good to even teach the client how to properly stretch that side and to do contract-relax stretching on their own.
 


If it is 'torticollis', SCM on the affected side will be tight.


The best thing you can do for treating necks is understand posture. Not just at the head but over the entire body. DON'T CHASE PAIN! To many therapists just say "okay, it hurts there so I will massage there". In stead, try to find out WHY it hurts and then work on that. Why is their head tilted to the side and why does it hurt on the opposite side of their neck? Is it due to an upslip in the pelvis? A rotation at the pelvis? The muscles are painful because they are in a stretched position rather than a contracted one etc....

A symptom (like pain) just tells you something is wrong. It doesn't necessarily tell you WHAT is wrong.

Patrick
 


Oh Brian you slay me.... :lol: Thanks for the laugh, I needed it this morning!

And Patrick W, your reply reminds me of what John Barnes says, "Find the pain, look elsewhere for the cause."

elsewhere, hope you find a few gems from the thread to help your client...
 


Bowen work in conjunction with CST might be helpful. Had a severely spasming client that I referred out to a colleague who is extremely skilled with Bowen work. Between my CST and her Bowen work, the spasming subsided considerably.

That's not saying it will "fix" torticollis", but, it might just be able to give some relief.

Thought just came to mind: Is the individual with torticollis on meds? My autistic client is on meds that really, quite literally bend his neck so far to the side and then back that you would think it would snap off at the shoulders. When he's not on the meds, or they are greatly reduced, then the torticollis isn't so pronounced.


FWIW
 


Wow, this is all really helpful, thanks so much everyone. I appreciate the time you took to share your methods. Gives me some great stuff to think about.

You know what I have found to be one of the problems leading to this? Many of my clients with this symptom sit too long at a computer with their heads leaning stretched out over their necks as they hyper extend to lean towards the computer screen. Poor ergonomics. I see this with some people who do graphic design or edit films and sit in one place for 12 hours looking at a computer screen. Yikes!

But then there are other causes too. It's such a weird malady. maybe with your help I can be more successful in treating this.

Thanks again.
 


Positional release works well for a lot of my folks -- counter-intuitively taking the body farther in the direction of the spasm usually...also if a neck if cranked over like that, I often find that the fascia of the entire hand/arm/shoulder complex is also quite bound and shortened, so releasing all of that slowly FIRST helps a lot of my neck-bound folks.

Also maybe for those computer-using folks, think about which hand they're mousing with (if it's on the same side as the spasm, that's adding to the problem). And which is their dominant eye? That often contributes to the direction they're holding their head, even if the screen is right in front of them (which it often isn't).

Good grief could I say "folks" more often in one post
 


Also, with regard to the whole computer thing and hand they are mousing with.....

Look for typical signs of 'handedness posture' and the compensations that go along with that. Ask which hand the write with and which ear they hold the phone too. Typically people write with the same hand of the ear that they hold the phone too (and the phone is held by having that same side shoulder elevate and keep it into place). Think about how that causes them to shift weight at the pelvis and how that can rotate or upslip the pelvis, which then can have an affect on their normal posutre as they try and change head position to look straight, when the posture is crooked. Sitting all day furthers these postures as the hip flexors are in constant shortening. Think about how that can affect overall posture and what is happening at the neck.

What is your evaluation process like for those with nagging neck pain?

A great book that you may want to check out is by Florence Kendall, Muscles: Testing and Function with Pain and Posture

Patrick
 


Good stuff Patrick thanks. That book sounds like a good tool, I'll have to get it.

As far as my evaluation goes my situation is kind of weird. Most of my clients I have seen for many, many years (I don't take on many new clients at all anymore) and I already know them intimately so my evaluation is sort of an ongoing progression of my relationship with them. Most I see weekly or twice monthly which is great because communication is already established as well as intimate and I already know their bodies and hearts very well.

That said when they come in crooked I ask a lot of pertinent questions, check for rotation and flexibility and since I already know their personal life try to see how much stress they are under so I can figure out the root or radical cause of their impacted areas. Having that kind of open intuitive communication from a body/mind perspective has always been kind of how I approach things. In short my protocols can often vary from person to person.

Any other tips you might have would be much appreciated.
 


I like to begin with Lymph Drainage Therapy. I find that when the lymph is flowing, the muscles respond much more quickly to massage - the muscles just melt. PNF stretching after the massage is also a good way to test & release remaining restrictions.
 


I also like to address the SCM, especially on the affected side; then strip the scalenes bilaterally and follow them into the 1st and 2cnd ribs.
Then like the other posters I like using PNF or positional release.

Like BJB-LMP I have found that working the tight fascia along the shoulder girdle/arm/hand along with chest and upper thoracics seems to help to release the tightness in the neck.

While taking an advanced clinical massage class the instructor had us address the serratus anterior, that literally freed up my neck more than any other bodywork, whenever I work on someone with a chronic stiff/ sore neck I work their serratus a. and it usually gives them relief.
 


In my (admittedly limited) experience, it's the levator scapulae that is the usual culprit, especially when the person complains of a "crick." I'll cradle the neck with one hand while working on the same-side levator with the other. To find it, you'll need to search the transverse processes of the cervicals, looking for a ropey, squirmey muscle that's posterior to the SCM that can be pushed posteriorly to the transverse processes (which is a good way to trap it for deep work).

The best way to make contact with it consistently is to find it on yourself. One good way is to extend your shoulder as far as you can (reaching for a wall behind your butt, for instance) while palpating the side of your neck. This is basically just a way of elevating the scapula without overinvolving trapezius. Once you find it, feel how you can twang back and forth over it and follow it from the side of the neck to the superior angle of the scapula. On people with inflammation or high muscle tone, you can actually pinch and lift it.

To work this, I'll just sink in and hold for several seconds, then move an inch up or down and repeat until I've traveled the length. In someone with bad neck problems, I'll hold longer, waiting for them to indicate that sensation has decreased. I imagine that there are more sophisticated ways of working on it, so any tips would be appreciated.

The reason I feel so sure about this is the sheer number of people who exclaim, "that's it!" or "that's the pain" or "what the hell is that?"
 
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  33. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY (Philippines/Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY (Vietnam) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  34. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA (Iran), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY (Singapore), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (Philippines) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿฆฉ bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  35. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธHellenCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  36. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ100 hh all in๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  37. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธLayra Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (10am โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. KITTY (1pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body
  40. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience ๐Ÿ˜ปgive you comfortable warm time๐Ÿ”ฅ
  41. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  42. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 3 young girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25โ€™s with curve body , young cute Sophia slime 30โ€™s and flirty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  43. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl Hitti very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIMI, JENNY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services.
  47. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Gorgeous Busty Boobs Taiwan๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ผ Girl Angel working with Sexy Exotic Filipina๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญGirl Molly & Sweet Shy Pretty Girl Kitty๐Ÿ˜ป and Sensual Pleasing Busty Coco๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณtoday๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Call or text ๐Ÿ“ฒ647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879๐Ÿ“ฒ
  48. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls working today. Kiki and Bella. They are both short, young, pretty, with lovely smiles and good massage.
  49. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  50. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl Sami Vietnamese Girl Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girlโ€จโ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
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