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Hi !

I am a total newbie in the chair massage bussinness. And what is the worse thing ( or maybe is the best thing) that in my country (croatia) this type of massage is totally unknown.(-" what the heck is chair massage?!")
I would like to lease a space in the shopping mall ( as I've seen you guys have in the USA ) but the mall manager doesn't find it "attractive enough".
Is there any idea which I can use to pursue a little bit more , like WIFM principle?
[Namely, he wanted to rent the place to some attractive service, like "nail bar".
As the space would be very attractive for onsite masage( due to a huge people circulation)I have to find the proper words and way to explain him all the benefit , but he stills ask - what is in it for me ( for mall , in general).
I need a good proposal , written well!
Any idea, please?

Thanks a lot

Warmest regards

Nitta
 


My first thought is that if he thinks a nail bar will be "attractive" and "making the mall a better place" then I'm not really sure what his criteria are. A nail bar will be very stinky and create fumes that will not be fun to be around.

With a massage chair, you will be making people VERY happy AND healthy. Maybe you should offer to give him a 10 min chair massage so he can see whats so great about it. Also you may want to prepare a "benefits of massage" list, with references. It sounds like he needs to be educated on the benefits of massage!

I could maybe say more, but I need to know more what this guys wants. "Whats in it for him?" The rent money! I don't get it, please explain.
 


It will increase the amount of time people spend in the shopping mall. Instead of going home when they get overwhelmed and tired, they get a massage, feel better, continue shopping and spend more money in his mall.
 


shivashiva , thanks on the replay.

Namely, he is the project manager of the shopping mall and he is decision maker of the renting space available at the mall.

He liked to have an explanation on what exactly the chair massage is and
why do I think that my offer is more attractive that the one of the owner of the nail bar.

My explanation in the first place were concentrated on the benefits of chair massage ( stress relief, etc).
But he wanted to know why he should give me the space instead to the
other renter ( the rent fee is the same for all the participants- so, I need to make a good persuasion to make him believe that the chair massage is the best contents and interesting potential for the biggest mall in the country.

What would you write in such an proposal? What would be yours best arguments?Although I don't know at the very moment how would people react on massage in the open space, but I hope and believe! it could work!

Thank you !

Nitta
 


Thanks, Chris!

I did mention him that too, but he says my arguments are not impressive enough :?
 


Personally I hate Nail Salons and I think the smell of them is very offensive. I would want to be as far away from it as possible if I were in the mall. If he is not receptive to the "massage is healthy and wonderful and will make people more relaxed, and open and thus open to shopping more and spending more money" then I would really focus on the fact that a Nail place is really going to drive people away (those who aren't getting their nails done) because of the toxic air and fumes.

It sounds like this is a hard man to work with! Even though having the massage in the mall sounds great, do you really want his guy to be your landlord? Anyway, seems like a tough situation. Good luck!
 


here we have small shops in the main walkway of the mall called 'kiosks' (sp?)

is it possible for you to set up in the walkway like that (less rent, more visibility). the ones here have little desk-type things that they sell retail items but it could be very do-able.

here's a site that might help you: http://www.kioskexpert.com/
good luck!
 


Nitta77,
Here's a couple online articles that might help you out.

Businessman Wants to Rub Shoppers the Right Way CNY - Business Journal:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3718/is_200009/ai_n8913266

Massage for the Masses - David Palmer, Chair massage, and Zubio:
http://www.massageandbodywork.com/Articles/FebMar2006/masses.html
 


Although I don't know at the very moment how would people react on massage in the open space

I suggest doing some hands on research to find out :-) Have you done chair massage in public in any other areas? Outdoor markets, festivals, events, private parties, etc? How did it go? The answer depends on your culture. In our culture, people can be afraid of touch, especially in front of others. At the same time, they don't necessarily want to be touched by a stranger behind closed doors.

After you find out, then you have to start emphasizing the positives and addressing the negatives. Pay attention to what Zubio.com is doing; they spend a lot of time thinking about these things and coming up with possible solutions. And I can almost guarantee David Palmer would be willing to talk to you about the issues you're facing.

Have you been able to give the manager a massage yet?

Have you looked at other places to do your massage instead of this mall?
 


To EgoMagickian

Thanks for the tips! It is hard to say how the people would react.
We are all different, some of us are afraid of touch, ashamed to be touched in the public and some are very open to the massage , generally.
I tried to convince the manager for a quick fix, but he refused ( lack of time was his excuse ?!).
I received my chairs 2 weeks ago so I didn't have any opportunity to present the massage at some other place.
We do have a Christmas Fair starting next week in December, but I'm not sure to rent the space there, while this one is visited by parents with the small kids and the rent is very high ( about 2500 $ for 2 weeks). I think I couldn't "cover" my self with such a high rent.
If I understood you well, you think I should mail to David Palmer about my issue? You think he might be interested in the someone on the old continent trying to spread the mouth of word for the business he invented?
If he only would... :)
Thanks a lot once again! It is such a pleasure to find out that someone on the other part of the world cares...

to maestra

I already read the articles before, but anyway thanks a lot !

to making a change

Thank you for the link! I asked exactly for something like that in the main walkway, but he is not so open for my proposal. He said that our people are not used for sth like that in the open space and that nail bar is something more common and usable for his mall!
:cry: :cry:
 
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    Lily Spa : โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทBella 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  39. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธVivian๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธAnnaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  40. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sexy girl Suki deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  41. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ AMMU, JANVI, MONIKA, SASHA, JOEY, BELA, MIMI, SALMA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Sara, Tracy & Cindy. Sara is young & slim with nice C Cups, trim waist, sexy bum and long hair. She is vary friendly uses her assets well. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY & MAGGIE. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! Maggie is sweet, slim and very talented. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4 (Kennedy Rd & Steeles Ave E)
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs
  45. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  46. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒ. 4young beautiful girls working everyday(open long weekend),Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,new friendly nice girl CiCi,providing oil deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide,back work.more experience ,๐Ÿ…nice Vietnamese Amy is very good looking,big breasted sweet smile,open maid,everything she can provide,really popular girl,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ
  47. SpringGreen.:
    The weeked is here .New spanish tina๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Bunny miya,angel and tina are available today.These busty attractive girls provide a high level of service with a smile. call and text message ask questions thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹647-891-0699 call and text quentions thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Michelle 25โ€™s with curve body open mind and young cute Kitty 26โ€™s with curve body open mind, young flirty Yoyo with 36DD curve body open mind 30โ€™s and nice GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  50. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Mia new Vietnamese sweetheart girl with amazing personality Yuki Sweet Singaporean Girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Elena Vietnamese girl Cici Cute Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
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