On quality of touch

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I was thinking last night about "quality of touch" and wondering what mine feels like to other people. I thought about bodyworkers I know well and how I experience their quality of touch.

I think I experience quality of touch as a full expression of who the person is at that moment, strengths, challenges, and all. So M's quality of touch is sweet and beautiful, but sometimes a little shy, because that's how she is. And A's quality of touch is so deeply caring because she really is. And C's is, well, distracted and a little unpleasant/unhappy because that's how he's being in the treatment room.

It reminds me of this amazing way my shiatsu teacher basically said it, about how everything about us, including our attitudes and our daily lives, becomes the quality of our touch.

What do you think?
 


Ego,

I agree 100%. There are several therapists I go to for massage. All have a different touch and vibe. H's touch is strong, vibrant and energetic, this is who she is and her touch is perfect for her style of work. J is confident, calming and nurturing, just the thing when I need pampering. O is caring, nurturing and very empathetic. She floats through our massages and takes me with her.

I believe the quality of touch of all these great therapists is a reflection of their personalities and who they are inside. :)

I sometimes wonder how my quality of touch comes across to my clients. My style isn't for everyone, but I do have my regulars so I must be doing something right.

I do love this work. :D
 


I think I want to take a class from your shiatsu teacher.

everything about us, including our attitudes and our daily lives, becomes the quality of our touch.

absolutely! That is why it is so important to be grounded and present ~ to learn how to hush our "monkey minds" (from my TCM teacher) to be devoted to the care of the client.
 


given that you believe quality of touch is about us (the therapist), our lives and out attitudes. Do you think it is possible to change someones quality of touch? Can a person make their quality of touch better?

Patrick
 


As individual as we are (which is why we are each drawn to different modalities) doesn't the way we massage and the vibe we send out, boil down to how skilled (confident), focused, and professional we are in each massage?
 


I've wondered about this myself. I've also wondered if I recieved a massage from another massage therapist who did it exactly how I do it (which is fundamentally impossible), would I enjoy my/his/her work? Sounds kinda esoteric and quantum...but just a thought. Fortunately, I also have 'my regulars' so I must be doing something right (hopefully).
 


Patrick W said:
Do you think it is possible to change someones quality of touch? Can a person make their quality of touch better?

Yes - just as you can change your attitude about a given person or situation. Just as you can improve your handwriting or artistic talent. Just as you can improve your connection with your loved ones.

And just as these things can be different on any given day or even a given moment, it is the totality of who & where you are at that moment that convey your intent.

Intent is the most important tool we have in our possession.
 


What a cool question! Just thinking about recent experiences with others, I observe the M is brusque and business-like, J is thoughtful and confident, and D is relaxed and soothing.

I know that when I'm not focused and in the moment I worry about the quality of touch I give. Sometimes when I am doubting myself I need to take a deep breath and slow down, and then I can get back into my groove.

Gaspen, I'd love to get a massage from myself so I can experience the good and the bad! What better way to improve technique! Alas, until we can replicate ourselves I guess it ain't gonna happen.
 


Too true, Ella. Besides it would be a little more than freaky to be receiving from myself. Goosebump time!
 


Do you think it is possible to change someones quality of touch? Can a person make their quality of touch better?

Didn't yours improve in school? :-) Given that, my answer is of course yes, absolutely.

And judging not only by the responses here but also by the conversation I had with my rosen practitioner today, I'd guess that if someone wants to improve their quality of touch faster than simply by working and gaining more and more experience, the two things they can do are:

1) put intention into improving their quality of "being" during every session (whether they need to focus on more presence, more confidence, or more or less of something else) and 2) work on their own stuff, actively :-) Whether that's becoming less shy and more assertive, or more confident, or more open minded, or less judgmental, etc.

I've wondered about this myself. I've also wondered if I recieved a massage from another massage therapist who did it exactly how I do it (which is fundamentally impossible), would I enjoy my/his/her work?
Ohhh my god I so I want to receive the kind of massage I give! LOL. I want to receive my old low back protocol! And now that I've taken Orthomassage, I want to receive that too!

But now that we're talking about quality of touch, I think receiving my touch would be like looking into a very clear mirror... might not be ready to see everything that clearly! LOL
 
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Hello Ego and All,

This is a great post. Whenever I need guidance and insight (which seems alot lately), I come to this site and search. I have been looking for insight on "flow" and came across this post. Perfect.

I have been struggling the last year to start my practice over and supplement by working in local spas. It has been a tough journey and I am learning alot. In my massage demos, I have been so nervous that I have compromised my "flow" and it has been noted. I KNOW that I have the skills to give a satisfying massage- my old practice was always full with regulars, so I couldn't understand what was going wrong with these demos. I still am searching but it seems like my nervousness has kept my work from being in the present. The testing has me thinking in the future and it is keeping me from truly doing the work in front of me.

I read your Rosen post too and it brought me back to my Rosen experience. I only had 4 sessions (my therapist moved) but they were so powerful and productive. Maybe I should get more Rosen work for this phase of my life.

I too wish that I could feel the difference in my regular massage and 'test' massage. Oh, I hope there is a difference!! I am inspired!

Thank you!
 


Now I wonder if my quality of touch feels like a melted candle. I've been burning one at both ends for the last two weeks! :lol:
 


EgoMagickian said:
Do you think it is possible to change someones quality of touch? Can a person make their quality of touch better?

Didn't yours improve in school? :-) Given that, my answer is of course yes, absolutely.

And judging not only by the responses here but also by the conversation I had with my rosen practitioner today, I'd guess that if someone wants to improve their quality of touch faster than simply by working and gaining more and more experience, the two things they can do are:

1) put intention into improving their quality of "being" during every session (whether they need to focus on more presence, more confidence, or more or less of something else) and 2) work on their own stuff, actively :-) Whether that's becoming less shy and more assertive, or more confident, or more open minded, or less judgmental, etc.

I've wondered about this myself. I've also wondered if I recieved a massage from another massage therapist who did it exactly how I do it (which is fundamentally impossible), would I enjoy my/his/her work?
Ohhh my god I so I want to receive the kind of massage I give! LOL. I want to receive my old low back protocol! And now that I've taken Orthomassage, I want to receive that too!

But now that we're talking about quality of touch, I think receiving my touch would be like looking into a very clear mirror... might not be ready to see everything that clearly! LOL


What a terrific post and very helpful comments. This will give me something to think about and work towards for sure! thank you!
Savannah
Student of Massage Therapy
 


I've also wondered if I recieved a massage from another massage therapist who did it exactly how I do it (which is fundamentally impossible), would I enjoy my/his/her work?

One of my trade friends told me that she thinks that is what we do....we tend to give the massage that we think we would like best. I think that we might in theory, but how would you know until you could experience it? I think that it is something that we subconsciously strive for....
 


Right.. a very valuable thing, I find, is to to learning sessions with two other MTs... teach one of your moves/techniques to A, using B as a demo, until B reports that you and A are doing the same thing. Then, let A do the technique on you. Now you know how it feels.

This is time consuming, but can be used to learn a lot, and refine your work.
 


EgoMagickian said:
Right.. a very valuable thing, I find, is to to learning sessions with two other MTs... teach one of your moves/techniques to A, using B as a demo, until B reports that you and A are doing the same thing. Then, let A do the technique on you. Now you know how it feels.

Yes! We often do this in my shiatsu class. When someone has a question about a technique, the teacher will do it on their partner, then they do it on their partner and the teacher gets the partner to give feedback. This is very helpful.

-- Joshua
 


Great Thread!

I recently had a client that came back to me after a years absence. She told me in a rather frank way that my massage had gotten much better, more confident. I really appreciated the feedback acknowledging to her and myself that I had grown more confident in my work and how I approach my clients and let go of wondering if my work was satisfying enough for the recipient.

It takes great courage, and much self-reflection to master the art of massage. Everything we are, including the things we keep locked away in the corners of our being, are transmitted through our touch. I feel it is essential for bodyworkers to practice some form of meditation and/or centering exercise to even out our dispositions before a massage. The goal of my work is to leave the recipient more balanced than they were when we started the session. How can I possibly do that if I am not balanced myself?

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    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI (Vietnam/HK), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY (Vietnam) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  31. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Tuesday May 20, 2025, our attendants will be Monica ๐Ÿ˜, Connie ๐Ÿค—, Christina ๐Ÿคฉ, Ada ๐Ÿคฉ, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ and Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  32. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA (Iran), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (Philippines), ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿฆฉ bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  33. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, ELLA, MIA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™
  34. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Victoria Day!!! ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Top Star Jenny, ๐Ÿ†• Cathy, Coco, JPN Yui, Cindy, Kelly, GFE Eva, Amber, Echo & Juliet โ€” ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Hit up 647-695-6354๐Ÿค™ or text to ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169 โœจ160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, Richmond Hill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  35. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl Hitti very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  36. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธAmber๐ŸŒธCarlyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  37. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  38. wonderspa:
    welcome toWonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)L6a 4H8,๐Ÿ”ฅ4165000-800,Ensuit rain shower is available ,every day 4 nice girls working,๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,everything she can do,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is very beautiful face long leg friendly ,nice body slide,really popular must try๐ŸŒนlong hair Mina strong to relax oil massage,back walk,nice sexy body slice.amazing ending,๐Ÿ”ฅbring you comfortable time๐ŸŒนmust try
  39. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Latino ๐Ÿ’– Malaysian ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  40. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSamy๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธPriya๐ŸŒธHellen Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅGood news for all the west end people in Etobicoke Mississauga Milton and Brampton!!!๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ˜˜The famous superstar Cambodian Princess Suki from Annie Spa is now working at Jennyโ€™s Spa in Etobicoke starting this Tuesday May 20th with Tina & Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE)
  42. 89moonstar&MoonMoon:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Spanish Latin white girl and 22ys Colombia girl today &&Bradford location 6477129688
  43. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ100 hh all in๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  44. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : LINA (12pm-9pm): is a young Hispanic girl, hot body, C Cups, brown skin, round tight big butt, cute baby face, great services. LUCKY (12pm-9pm): is Vietnamese, small body, busty D cup, very beautiful face, Young/Cute/Petite/Pure/Submissive, Fair Skin
  45. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Michelle 25โ€™s sexy body open mind and young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body, young cute Taiwanese Victoria slime open mind 25โ€™s and nice GFE cute are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ YUKI, MALIYA, MONICA, SASHA, BELA, AMANDA, PREETI, ANGELINA, SABHA, MONIKA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella & Yumi. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience.
  49. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, FIONA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services.
  50. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga ViVi Sarah and Kiki work. They are young, sexy and cute and they give very good massage. Sarah is 23 years old and still a student. She only works for one day.
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