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[Pleasure Girl]

You can't have your cake and eat it too. Sometimes you have to make a choice between two options that cannot be reconciled. My choice was between giving legitimate massage after the grind of 2200 massage training OR combining legitimate massage with providing sensual happy endings which may include my clothes on or off. Not getting any younger and wanting to make as much money as possible before the body parts sag I went with massage with optional extras route. With that comes consequences. One of those consequences is that there is jealous competitors and horny men that want more and more.

The rant I have is that my business is been shellacked this week. On average I would see 20 to 25 of you men a week. Since Monday and all the private shit being displayed on kijiji I have seen 2 of you men only. Whether intentional or not the providers that are doing this on this board and even worse on kijiji are killing ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES. I have a mortgage to pay and I am not getting any younger. I have if I am lucky 7 more years before you men will not find me attractive enough or sensual enough and will stop making appointments with me. I NEED the business and some of the providers on here and on kijiji is killing it for me and everyone else. STOP killing our business ladies.

The easiest solution is if the moderator will eliminate all threads before today and start fresh.

Some of the ladies on this board are pumping their own businesses. You guys have been fair to me on this board and not everything I like but I suck it up. I am not going to complain when I chose to give nude handjobs. I will though complain about the following 4 LADIES on this board who OWN massage businesses and are providing reviews to pump their business or piss off customers. The following 4 posters are FEMALES

Michael Garrett is female massage business owner
MisterMister was a female massage owner that moved to Toronto
NEWtoALLthis is a female massage owner
Explorerforever is a female massage owner that takes cheap shots at other providers in order to help her business.


You four females and others are hurting business for all of us. I use Craiglist and backpage for my adds because the men I attract frequent those. Today I looked at kijiji and realize why MY BUSINESS is dying. If newtoallthis or michael or explorer or mistermister are the ones placing the personal information on kijiji you have gone to far. You will never have men make appointments for fear of your putting personal information out there. If you want to kill your business by doing this FINE and DANDY but stop killing my business. You not only hurt your business you hurt everyone of us ladies business. If you do not want to see a customer just do not see that customer BUT for F sake do not screw it up for all of us. This is from Albertaman. Ladies read this from Albertaman.

And btw, if there is a RMT business (with an association registration number) that ever allows personal information to be leaked out, provide me that RMT's registration number and some proof of the info leak. I will ensure action to yank that registration and legal action to make the fool(s) realize that Privacy Commissions do exist. They will never be in business, ever again. Cheers.

What this is saying is that if a customer wanted to they could file complaint about you leaking personal information and your business would be over without having a massage association number. LADIES stop.

One of these on kijiji is hilarious because of misinformation. I have massaged at least 10 of you.

I can tell you that Albertaman (sees both Calgary and Edmonton girls) is different than SPEXX (likes the reach under and talks too much to other girls). MASSAGEMAESTRO (does not see anyone that gives handjobs) is different than Bob the Knob (also does full service). Albertajin (East Indian) is different than Old Fart (will only tip if service deserves it). Jistaguy (a full service guy) is different than Johny2228 (too young for me. I see no one under 30 anymore). Rubmegood (almost all massages at XIAOPG) is different than Cabinman (does Calgary and Edmonton).

What I am saying ladies is that you have killed my business this week by ranting and not doing your homework. Read Albertaman comments again. Leaking personal information will lead to the registration body looking at ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES.

MODERATOR WIPE THIS BOARD before these kijiji ladies and the michael and mistermister and newtoallthis and explorer ladies wipe all our businesses.


To get business back I will be offering the following special starting on March 15 (going in for a nip and tuck so out of commission for a couple of weeks)

For $120 I will give you a 90 minute combined deep tissue with a sensual ending. Look for my add on March 14.

 

[Johny2228]

Very articulate and clear about what this business is all about.Thank you for your posting

 

[michael garrett]

pleasure girl...i have no idea why you have accused me of being a female...i am who i am..a white male early sixties years of age, and i am not the owner of any business....on this site i have been nothing but supportive of all the rmt s i have seen and i have provided fair and complimentary reviews of each, and i cannot understand how my reviews are hurting the massage business...the only negative comments i have made were to the old fart who also accused me of being a female...i agree with your other comments regarding the massage business and although i prefer only see asian rmt s i would be pleased to make an appt with you in march for the purposes of identifying myself and helping out with your finances...plse feel free to respond or pm me so we can clear up any misunderstandings as to who i am and what i am alleged to have said ....mg

 

[MASSAGE.MAESTRO]

Thank you for the clarification and insight...at least as much as you were able.

But just to clarify completely about myself: I like to go to places that are comfortable with me being undraped. They may or may not give some level of happiness. It's often offered on the first visit. I may have to stop with the undraped practice....as in the last year, I'm finding that a few ladies aren't even asking...they are trying to seduce me into a decision that I might regret. I sense a level of desperation going on: and probably due to this thin skinned attempt to quash reviews.

Thank you for sticking up for us.

 

[Spexx]

SPEXX (likes the reach under and talks too much to other girls)

Although I empathize and agree with everything you have said, including the comment of me enjoying the reach under, I would love clarification on how I am talking too much to other ladies. I have pm’d you and would prefer a response there as I am quite confident I know who you are, though I have no idea where I have wronged you and have warranted being called out.
Please explain otherwise you may have lost another client.

 

[northerbear]

You can't have your cake and eat it too. Sometimes you have to make a choice between two options that cannot be reconciled. My choice was between giving legitimate massage after the grind of 2200 massage training OR combining legitimate massage with providing sensual happy endings which may include my clothes on or off. Not getting any younger and wanting to make as much money as possible before the body parts sag I went with massage with optional extras route. With that comes consequences. One of those consequences is that there is jealous competitors and horny men that want more and more.

The rant I have is that my business is been shellacked this week. On average I would see 20 to 25 of you men a week. Since Monday and all the private shit being displayed on kijiji I have seen 2 of you men only. Whether intentional or not the providers that are doing this on this board and even worse on kijiji are killing ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES. I have a mortgage to pay and I am not getting any younger. I have if I am lucky 7 more years before you men will not find me attractive enough or sensual enough and will stop making appointments with me. I NEED the business and some of the providers on here and on kijiji is killing it for me and everyone else. STOP killing our business ladies.

The easiest solution is if the moderator will eliminate all threads before today and start fresh.

Some of the ladies on this board are pumping their own businesses. You guys have been fair to me on this board and not everything I like but I suck it up. I am not going to complain when I chose to give nude handjobs. I will though complain about the following 4 LADIES on this board who OWN massage businesses and are providing reviews to pump their business or piss off customers. The following 4 posters are FEMALES

Michael Garrett is female massage business owner
MisterMister was a female massage owner that moved to Toronto
NEWtoALLthis is a female massage owner
Explorerforever is a female massage owner that takes cheap shots at other providers in order to help her business.


You four females and others are hurting business for all of us. I use Craiglist and backpage for my adds because the men I attract frequent those. Today I looked at kijiji and realize why MY BUSINESS is dying. If newtoallthis or michael or explorer or mistermister are the ones placing the personal information on kijiji you have gone to far. You will never have men make appointments for fear of your putting personal information out there. If you want to kill your business by doing this FINE and DANDY but stop killing my business. You not only hurt your business you hurt everyone of us ladies business. If you do not want to see a customer just do not see that customer BUT for F sake do not screw it up for all of us. This is from Albertaman. Ladies read this from Albertaman.

And btw, if there is a RMT business (with an association registration number) that ever allows personal information to be leaked out, provide me that RMT's registration number and some proof of the info leak. I will ensure action to yank that registration and legal action to make the fool(s) realize that Privacy Commissions do exist. They will never be in business, ever again. Cheers.

What this is saying is that if a customer wanted to they could file complaint about you leaking personal information and your business would be over without having a massage association number. LADIES stop.

One of these on kijiji is hilarious because of misinformation. I have massaged at least 10 of you.

I can tell you that Albertaman (sees both Calgary and Edmonton girls) is different than SPEXX (likes the reach under and talks too much to other girls). MASSAGEMAESTRO (does not see anyone that gives handjobs) is different than Bob the Knob (also does full service). Albertajin (East Indian) is different than Old Fart (will only tip if service deserves it). Jistaguy (a full service guy) is different than Johny2228 (too young for me. I see no one under 30 anymore). Rubmegood (almost all massages at XIAOPG) is different than Cabinman (does Calgary and Edmonton).

What I am saying ladies is that you have killed my business this week by ranting and not doing your homework. Read Albertaman comments again. Leaking personal information will lead to the registration body looking at ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES.

MODERATOR WIPE THIS BOARD before these kijiji ladies and the michael and mistermister and newtoallthis and explorer ladies wipe all our businesses.


To get business back I will be offering the following special starting on March 15 (going in for a nip and tuck so out of commission for a couple of weeks)

For $120 I will give you a 90 minute combined deep tissue with a sensual ending. Look for my add on March 14.

PM me if you are still available this weekend

 

[Albertaman]

Although I empathize and agree with everything you have said, including the comment of me enjoying the reach under, I would love clarification on how I am talking too much to other ladies. I have pm’d you and would prefer a response there as I am quite confident I know who you are, though I have no idea where I have wronged you and have warranted being called out.
Please explain otherwise you may have lost another client.

Spexx, Pleasuregirl is making these deductions by reading the posts , not from meeting you. I can tell. So, cheer up.

Advice to massage enthusiasts - don't bother mixing your "for receipt" massages with your "for fun" massages. Get all your receipts from only one or two dedicated therapists that run seriously professional businesses. For the rest of your 'pleasure oriented' massage life, use a burner phone, and cash only, be a gentleman, be discrete and respectful and don't show off.


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[MASSAGE.MAESTRO]

I feel like it's someone from Labella!

No...and perhaps you are saying that, because they complain about you. No-one takes they're clothes off at Labella. When customers don't get what they want, they get on here and make up stories about different ladies....claiming they got something they didn't.

They will see guys under 30.

At least...that's What my Psychic told me.

 

[Rubmegood]

The easiest solution is if the moderator will eliminate all threads before today and start fresh.

Don't we all WISH there was a moderator!? But to answer your question: There isn't one!

 

[annalise lane]

to the lady who posted this, I'm sorry you are struggling. I feel your pain. However, I took a long hard look at my massage business when Annie came on board (she even contacted me for help and I gave it willingly) and had to adjust my rates because I hadn't seen a massage client in over 6 months. I'm not about to tell you how to run your business, but as I've been told "charge what you want and the industry will tell you by booking or not booking"

My rate had to go from 160 to 120 and now I'm as busy as I want to be. I've gotten creative with how my ads are presented. Desktop publishing knowledge has done wonders.

If you do YOU and stop worrying about others, stay positive, kind and treat EVERYone with respect everything will work out.

 

[Albertaman]

I feel like it's someone from Labella!

Listen boy, after your stupid post on Sunny, wear the dunce cap, and do your penance for next 10 massages ... strictly self service at XP. Then post your regrets. Be honourable.


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[Rubmegood]

treat EVERYone with respect everything will work out.

Thank you Annalise. Although this forum tends to be mostly men, it's refreshing to hear from the ladies and especially the women RMT's.

SOME of us have been trying to drive home the value of treating everyone with respect and discretion, i.e: Be a Gentleman (I know, old fashioned...). Seems like some ladies could take that advice to heart as well.

 

[annalise lane]

I need to add - I've been told over the last 7 weeks, that there are very few Caucasian women offering massage h.e. The boys are slowing tiring of the Asian Micros but the ones who like them will never see Us white girls - tho they might see us once, they will never be back. It isn't because we dont offer good quality for a reasonable rate, it is because they have a thing for the Asian gals. There is really no such thing as competition. Men will see a black girl on monday, and blonde of wednesday and a fat chick on the weekend. They route their selection. It might feel like its personal, but its' not.

Keep your chin up

 

[Happytoast]

I feel like it's someone from Labella!

You think pleasure girl is someone from Labella?
Read the thread again, cause they don’t advertise on BP. I’m pretty sure I know who it is, but I’ve never been to see her.
Sticking with the one I know and trust. Really happy that I’ve never seen Kelly either. She sounds like she’ll give you a headache after you leave.

 

[Rubmegood]

Men will see a black girl on monday, and blonde of wednesday and a fat chick on the weekend.

THREE times in a week!!?? I wish...

 

[Albertaman]

I need to add - I've been told over the last 7 weeks, that there are very few Caucasian women offering massage h.e. The boys are slowing tiring of the Asian Micros but the ones who like them will never see Us white girls - tho they might see us once, they will never be back. It isn't because we dont offer good quality for a reasonable rate, it is because they have a thing for the Asian gals. [\QUOTE]

Don't think there is any defined pre-determined leanings towards Asian women versus Caucasian and so on. Some people may have very specific requirements but generally I think it's a question of mutual chemistry. For example if there is natural mutual communication (not just words, but non verbal) then as clients, we return. For me, personally, the massage has to be very good. Real effort, not the lazy 5 minutes of effort and then doing all kinds of useless stuff to pass the time.

However, there has been a major influx of stolen monies from China into Canada, Australia, NewZealand and US over past 10 years. Many of the massage shops are just fronts for money laundering. The workers are real people, but they and the managers are not the real owners. (Like most of the housing bubble, financed and re-financed through these monies stolen from the people of China by many of their own regional communist party leaders). So the massage industry shifted to an Asian supply side. So it appears that clients prefer this. IMHO, if the Russians had made better inroads into Canada, us guys would be far more excited about Belorussian ladies than the Asian ladies. My 2 cents.


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[annalise lane]

Don't think there is any defined pre-determined leanings towards Asian women versus Caucasian and so on. Some people may have very specific requirements but generally I think it's a question of mutual chemistry. For example if there is natural mutual communication (not just words, but non verbal) then as clients, we return. For me, personally, the massage has to be very good. Real effort, not the lazy 5 minutes of effort and then doing all kinds of useless stuff to pass the time.

However, there has been a major influx of stolen monies from China into Canada, Australia, NewZealand and US over past 10 years. Many of the massage shops are just fronts for money laundering. The workers are real people, but they and the managers are not the real owners. (Like most of the housing bubble, financed and re-financed through these monies stolen from the people of China by many of their own regional communist party leaders). So the massage industry shifted to an Asian supply side. So it appears that clients prefer this. IMHO, if the Russians had made better inroads into Canada, us guys would be far more excited about Belorussian ladies than the Asian ladies. My 2 cents.

Everyone has a place in any market at any rate. Clients decide.

The asian market I struggle with. It would be nice to know they willing work, and aren't being manipulated to work to pay a storage container travel.

 

[Albertaman]

Don't think there is any defined pre-determined leanings towards Asian women versus Caucasian and so on. Some people may have very specific requirements but generally I think it's a question of mutual chemistry. For example if there is natural mutual communication (not just words, but non verbal) then as clients, we return. For me, personally, the massage has to be very good. Real effort, not the lazy 5 minutes of effort and then doing all kinds of useless stuff to pass the time.

However, there has been a major influx of stolen monies from China into Canada, Australia, NewZealand and US over past 10 years. Many of the massage shops are just fronts for money laundering. The workers are real people, but they and the managers are not the real owners. (Like most of the housing bubble, financed and re-financed through these monies stolen from the people of China by many of their own regional communist party leaders). So the massage industry shifted to an Asian supply side. So it appears that clients prefer this. IMHO, if the Russians had made better inroads into Canada, us guys would be far more excited about Belorussian ladies than the Asian ladies. My 2 cents.

Everyone has a place in any market at any rate. Clients decide.

The asian market I struggle with. It would be nice to know they willing work, and aren't being manipulated to work to pay a storage container travel.

Based on my experience, at massage places (no FS involved), no one is being manipulated directly (as in forced labour). They are legal immigrants, and not part of the families that stole billions from their home country. They are trying to save and make a living like every other Canadian. They also get a set percentage of the hourly rate plus tips. The places that are a red flag are the ones that do not give a penny of the hourly rate to the ladies. The ladies may have no grasp of English and are not taking any English classes, part-time. This is where human trafficking is likely occurring. People/clients need to have the courage to call these places out.


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[gshawn9999]

It’s great we have more ladies getting involved. Soon they will have a friendly competition


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[Love2Massage]

It’s great we have more ladies getting involved. Soon they will have a friendly competition


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Competition?
Why would anyone want that? I feel that a mindset like that causes more issues. Stay true to the type of massage you enjoy giving and compatible clients will follow, massage providers of all kinds will burn themselves out trying to compete to win over clients.
I didn’t learn massage therapy to “compete” with anyone and would never intend too.
I enjoy providing massage because I believe healthy touch is something required for wellbeing, many people lack touch/connection in their daily lives.
Clients that don’t agree with that or want more than I give won’t see me, and that’s fine because there’s always gonna be someone else that will give them what they want.