MFR vs Deep tissue

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I have been licensed for just over one year and I am finding that I am most drawn to therapeutic modalities as opposed to spa modalities or simple Swedish massage.

I had a fairly extensive course on myofascial release in school and enjoy using it, but I have never done a full session of MFR.

I have started applying at therapeutic style massage businesses, but I feel a little overwhelmed. Should I be working out some kind of routine which includes only MFR? Any suggestions what this should include? Other than what the client mentions of course! :)

I am also wondering about "deep tissue" work. We did not cover this in school. I have the money to purchase one CEU program right away, and I don't know if I should invest in more MFR teaching or start learning deep tissue. I intend to study both in the future, just don't know where to start. Especially when I see job ads stating "deep tissue ability prefered".

I'm still searching for my voice, but slowly discovering it.

Thanks for any help.
Andrea
 


You may want to check out http://www.deeptissue.com . The site has both deep tissue and MFR dvd's w/ sample clips you can watch. I, also leaning toward therapeutic, have invested in both.
 


You may do well to get a few therapeutic treatments from several MTs. Ask them about what they do and their training, and pay attention to the experience from start to finish and then the aftereffects.

I've never had identical massages from two different MTs, even when they followed a similar routine. Pressure, pacing, and connection varies, and in therapeutic work I've noticed many more differences. In my own practice, I've noticed that my style has changed dramatically over the last year as I've incorporated more effective ways of treating various issues. I would much rather receive my current work than the work I used to do.

Something else to consider: what do you want to work on? Anything in particular, or just something more challenging than relaxation? Let this guide your choices as you explore options for continuing ed.

Last, try to find in-depth continuing ed courses that are taught IN PERSON. At this seforum.xxxe, I doubt that home-study courses are what you need. First-hand experience gained in a class is invaluable and really helps clarify the fine points that books and DVDs don't seem to cover.

Good luck in your search!
 


I completely agree with having a few treatments by different therapists in the modalities you're interested in. I do both MFR and deep tissue, they are two distinctly different treatments with different benefits and some people prefer one or respond better to one over the other.

I wouldn't invest a lot of CE money until you know what you want to study and for what reason.

Good luck!
 


Thank you all for your replies.

Empathic Heart - For the fact of what you said about some people responding better to one over the other I think that I will make it a point to learn deep tissue, but for now I think that I will look for more hands on classes in MFR.

Trying out different MTs is a good idea. It seems that I've been giving a lot of massages to MTs lately because I've been applying to work at a few different places. I sure wish that they'd reciprocate. It would be a very good idea for me to know the style and calibre of the person I'm working for.
 
MFR vs Deep Tissue

In Florida, a pole was taken of MTs. It found that the most requested style of massage is Deep Tissue, and many of them charge more for that. I feel part of the huge number of requests is not because people want killer pressure, but because their last massage was Fluff and Buff. So they got a light massage, they feel that they need to request Deep Tissue when they simply want to feel their massage.

I do MFR, having taken three of John Barnes courses. I feel MFR is used mostly when needed, and I do full sessions. Doing MFR in the JFB style means coming up with your routine based on what your client needs. You figure out what your client needs based on postural analysis. You see where they are not aligned, and see where you need to work to bring them back into alignment. But one also keeps in mind that if the client is feeling something in one place while you are working in another, that is their body directing you where to work next no matter what plan you have come up with. Keep in mind that this is done without oil. Once you get oil on the client, you can't do this style of MFR.

As far as Deep Tissue goes, for the most part it is more pressure. Yes you can do compressions and dig in excruciatingly deep, but mostly people just want more pressure. Learning how to use your body better can help you get the pressure you need. Keep your hands in front of you, in your center. This is where you are strongest. Learn how to get your body over your arm so you can use the weight to get in deep. Learn how to use your forearms rather than your hands or elbows. (Aunty Margaret's Lomi Lomi is a good teacher for this.)

As far as one or the other, if someone needs a massage, they get Deep Tissue, if that is the pressure they want. If someone has pain, and they are out of alignment (as most people are), I suggest MFR if I feel it would be a better thing for them. I can always add some Lomi compressions to stretch the muscles with either style, but I treat them like day and night.
 


Deep tissue massage, soft tissue mobilization (STM), and myofascial release are usually considered separate, though there may be quite a bit of overlap between the first two. The STM I learned during my MFR training was very deep and forceful. It filled a few hours of the intro MFR class and we were told that we will seldon use it, since MFR was so effective. Despite this, when I observed MFR treatment as a part of the training, STM was used quite often, and as usual, was very deep and forceful.

When it comes to being treated, I'm pretty much a wimp. I don't like STM. So, I really was never comfortable performing it on my clients either. Over the years I morphed STM to a point of what I now term MyoMobilizationโ„ข. It is a blend of MFR and STM; going deep without being painful. Holding the deeper barriers without trying to force my way through them. I see better results in terms of mobility and pain resolution with much better comfort on the part of my clients. I've also begun to incorporated MyoMobilizationโ„ข training in my seminars.
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  41. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : CLOUDIA is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white skin
  42. lemon_tree:
    ๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’•a discreet entrance to 4155 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 201๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’–Monday, ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹ Carmen,๐Ÿ’‹ (Candy) โฃbeautiful, dark hair to shoulder, tall and slim but busty, and does very relaxing treatment with over the top finish. *Also goes by Lily. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ“ž647 348-2899๐Ÿ“ž
  43. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (11AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  44. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  45. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  46. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services... Cindy
  47. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŒนWe're waiting for you!๐ŸŒน Today (Monday), our amazing attendants are Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Lucy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky ๐Ÿ˜˜, Mia ๐Ÿค— and Sophie ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, LINDA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! LINDA is a sweet Vietnamese honey with great skills. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with
  49. Red_Pearl_Spa:
    โค๐Ÿ’‹4385 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 5๐Ÿ”บ๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ดMonday, ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’‹ Tammy, โฃfull body treatment by an amazing attendant. good overall treatment. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ โ˜Ž๏ธ 647 352-1588โ˜Ž๏ธ
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and very pleasing
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