Indian Head Massage and Epilepsy

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Hi all,

I have a question about Indian Head Massage. I have bought a dvd "Teach yourself Indian Head Massage". I thought it would be a good/fun thing for hubby and me to practise this on each other and perhaps someone else within the family. Strictly amateurish, just for pleasure.

Yesterday evening I had a quick glance through the instructions. There was a warning to take it easy with persons who had various dis-eases, among them epilepsy. My daughter (35 yrs) has had epilepsy since she was 21. Her doctor says she'll be fine as long as she takes her medicine, sleeps well and stay off alcohol. She hasn't had any attacks in a few years now.

So my question is: in what way could this massage be harmful to her? I thought it would be a soothing and relaxing experience, something she could benefit from. I've told her about the dvd and she's very interested.

Bee
 
Hi Bee
Epilepsy is not normally a contra-indication but you have to be able to cope with a person having a seizure and the person having the treatment has to realise that no matter how small the risk they may have a seizure although unlikely and have to be comfortable with that....as this is your daughter you do not have the normal client risk but make sure you are both happy.

Hugs
T
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Hi Tigerbee,

Thanks. That was valuable info to me. I guess I'll have to go verrry easy with her. Actually, I've never been present when she's had the seizures earlier, the epilepsy appeared after she went to uni and moved to her own flat. Today she works as a teacher for children 13-16 yrs and is thereby under great stress.

The massage technique seems interesting though, so I will try and learn it. Maybe I can try it on my daughter when I feel I can handle the technique. I suppose continued distant Reiki will do for the moment. That seems to have had some positive effect on her temper (she's quite hot-tempered, not at all like her laidback mom )

Bee
 
Hi Bee

I have been teaching Indian Head Massage for 8 years and Epilepsy is a contra-indication on certain movements on the scalp. I also do a video however it is very important to point out which movements you should miss out is someone suffers from this or go more gentle.

Certain parts of the massage to the scalp is very stimulating and it is recommended when working on the scalp that these movements are not used. I recommend that the safe parts earlier in the massage can be lengthened so the client still receives a full 30 min massage.

When working on meridians on the head you are giving the whole body an MOT it is similar to reflexology the organs are linked to nerves which go to the feet but also it is the same for the head. It is always best to get proper training when learning any new massage you should not give Indian Head massage to a person who has a high fever or who is drunk and there are also other issues to be aware of so training from a professional is always advised.

You are also releasing toxins in the body so good advise is to drink plenty of water to help this process.

maybe you could look for someone in your area or if you let me know where you are I may know of someone.

I hope this has been helpful

Best Wishes

Sue
 
Hi

I have just got off the phone to Narinder Mehta who as most people here in the UK are aware is the pioneer/guru of Indian Head Massage in the UK and is highly respected, he has confirmed for me that Epilepsy is NOT a contra-indication to Indian Head Massage, he would not modify the therapy in anyway except to make the head massage slightly more gentle. (which I think i put in a PM to you BEE).

Hope that helps.
T
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Like Mystic, I have been teaching IHM for 4 years, and I always say that it is a contra indication, just to be on the safe side. I was taught myself that it is unwise to rush too much blood to the head too quickly.

We also avoid the thyroid areas in anyone who has hyper or hypo thyroidism, and so on, just as precautionary measures.

I once had someone faint half way through a session. It turned out she had low blood pressure. I always advise against the treatment for anyone on low or high BP.

Having said that, many people dont tell the whole truth about themselves, and apart from this lady, I have never yet had any real problems with the treatment or the lessons. I just vere on the side of caution though.

Love

Gillyxxxxxxxxxxx
 
Hi all, I do agree with Gilly that it is best to be cautious. I have been taught this is a contra- indication also. I think it's about what your insurance company and the examiner's body want you to be careful of and if there is even a slight chance of the condition being made worse or the treatment being the trigger of an onset of the attack then they will tell you to get medical advice and to let the Dr/client know about the risks.
 
Well it just shows how we all differ, the only really stimulating one is tapotment which is the one that would be done very gently, I have spoken to several tutors of the examinable courses and they all say ok.....

Hugs
T
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Contra- indications are relative & not absolute!

Companies & individuals producing literature, DVD's, vidoes are obliged to point out any possible contra indications or side effects, in view of the possibilty of the worst case senario & the possibility of being sued.

So long as you explain any 'known risks', of which this is a remote one ( in my opinion) & if unsure you can get them to sign something that says you have explained this to them & they are happy to try the treatment.
 
I would treat. Epilepsy, high bp (which would be lowered by the treatment) and low bp. I know that those with low bp may feel faint, but have treated plenty who have had low bp and been fine. We have a therapist at the Centre who is epileptic and I give her massage without a problem, the worst thing for her is her back strain from working on people's feet. To be honest, if we want to be taken seriously then we can't turn away every health condition.

Not only that but there are more serious health conditions and I am happy to give treatments to people with those too. Probably wouldn't have any clients othewise![&:]
 
Thanks all of you for your valuable input!

I think I understand the concept better now and I realise IHM is not to be played with. It's funny though that the dvd "sells" it from a somewhat lighter aspect with just the quickly shown disclaimer.

My interest has not decreased I will go easy with my daughter, hubby will be my test rabbit

Love and Light
Bee
 
Hi Bee
So pleased you havent been put off....enjoy the therapy it is truely lovely, any questions just let me kow.
Hugs to you
T
x
 
Hi

I agree with Gilly, I learnt at a college and these were the guidelines I was given and I was glad I was. I do know of someone who went for an Indian Head Massage who suffered from Epilepsy and it did bring on a fit. It is always a good idea to outline the possible risks, as I am not a doctor I visited my local GP to check all the health positives and areas to be careful with (as he recommends people to me) and he agreed with the college and with all the guidelines I was given.

You can still have an Indian Head Massage if you suffer from epilepsy however there are certain areas that you either can miss out or go more gentle.

Narendra Mehta for reference in his Indian Head Massage Book on Page 144 says in his words of caution:

If you are not a trained therapist, do not give indian head massage if your partner or friend is suffering from any of the following conditions:

Osteoporosis, frailty, chronic fatigue, Epilepsy, Spondylitis or spondylosis in the neck, painful cysts or Psoriasis

These are all good recommendations for anyone not trained.

I am not a doctor so to be safe it is always best to check with your GP if you have any concerns. I always encourage anyone who has any major health concerns to check with their GP I offer my guidelines and then they can make an informed decision. They are given a medical questionairre and once signed and they are happy for you to go ahead you are covered by your Insurance.

Having said all that there are so many wonderful benefits from this massage and in the 8 years I have been practicing and teaching the feedback has been very positive.

Sue
 
I would be interested to know how many GP's even know what Indian Head Massage is! Certainly many of the one's that my business partner and I met at a recent drug company fair hadn't a clue! They don't train in complementary medicine and usually know very little about it. Agreed some do, my own GP has all therapies on offer. But seriously, if you get out there and talk to GP's - young and old - they will happily tell you that they don't know the first thing about holistic treatments.

I am not saying that everybody who watches a DVD should start treating, and in fact some therapists shouldn't as they are so poorly trained, but many are very competent and as for somebody having a fit whilst having a treatment, well maybe that would have happened anyway?

I just don't buy it.
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    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Hot young big boobs 36F natural Philippines Chinese Canadian mixed girl (BoBo) in late tonight
  29. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ AAVI, SARIKA, PAYAL PEARL, NINA, MALIYA, NISHA, NIMRAT, MONIKA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  30. hiyamickey:
    6 girls working @ Reynaella wellness, โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-470-8082 22 years young Japanese students girl working today
  31. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Sunday ๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New white girl gigi๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Candy - petite cutie who is a bundle of fun and pleasure Amy- Friendly school girl with a nice body and matching services to...
  32. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Nana๐Ÿ˜˜ is a sexy young slim Malaysian girl w
  33. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Japanese Lily 36DDD and young pretty student Summer, young open mind Jessy and sex Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  34. KSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: JESSICA, YUMI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ JESSICA is 20, Chinese, 5โ€™3โ€ and 110 Lbs, sexy & good looking with 34C goodies to play with. YUMI is a young early twenties Japanese girl, about 5โ€™2โ€, medium build, natural chest, and a big sexy bum. Yumi is very versatile and skilled. CINDY is slim & pretty
  35. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at Sugar Love Spa: Eva, Lily, Sunny & Tiffany. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž 437-365-2688 โ˜Ž CICI is Chinese, 49 Kgs & 1M 57Cms, with nice D melons & an open services menu. Sugar Love Spa is an all new spa, and we are moving more upscale, with beautiful young attendants to provide massage all your cares away, and services to satisfy your needs. Relax and enjoy a professional quality massage.
  36. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Young Slim Thai Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  37. SunriseRH:
    SUNDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: HELEN, SUMMER & TIANA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ HELEN is a young, slim & very sexy Vietnamese lady. She not only looks good, she IS good. SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€ with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services.
  38. NewOriental:
    SUNDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY, PHOENIX & LULU. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. PHOENIX is a gentle sweet Filipina lady, 5โ€™4โ€ and 105Lbs, with 34C-24-34 assets and very open minded. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl
  39. ASPA:
    ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: Be๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น, & Sophia ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ RACHEL is a petite & cute, 34C, 155Cms & 50Kg, very gentle & patient. She has good communication, massage & service. SOPHIA is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4โ€
  40. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAmy & Jenny. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curved with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  41. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  42. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Sonia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Connie , Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Jennifer, Mia & Sophia. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded.
  44. Dreaminn:
    SUNDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: NEW GIRL KELLY, HONEY, & VIVI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ KELLY is a young & pretty Asian girl, very slim model figure, 5โ€™3โ€ with unreal bbbj skills & very liberal services. HONEY is a beautiful slim Asian lady with an ample bosom, slightly curvy with a great ass. Her services are highly sought after.
  45. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ AAVI, SARIKA, PAYAL PEARL, NINA, MALIYA, NISHA, NIMRAT, MONIKA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  46. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who Wa
  47. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Vicky๐ŸฅฐA new arrival at our branch ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ‘ฏโ€โ™€๏ธVicky is a very young CBC part time student working for tuition fees and books, this bright young sexy girl is willing to showcase her eagerness to please AND be pleased. Busty 34C boobs on a peti
  48. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely Jessica and coco Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  49. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Young Curvy Sexy Latina Karen, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  50. tick:
    best massage attendant
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