Have you got the Vaccine

Have you got the vaccine?

  • I already got the vaccine

    Votes: 510 82.5%
  • I have an appointment scheduled

    Votes: 9 1.5%
  • I'm still undecided

    Votes: 8 1.3%
  • I'm waiting to see how things go

    Votes: 23 3.7%
  • I'm not getting the vaccine

    Votes: 68 11.0%

  • Total voters
    618
They seem to be pretty darn good at stopping deaths and hospitalizations...

The unvaccinated have pretty much cornered the market on dying from covid now... Darwinism in action!






In Ontario: Unvaccinated individuals account for the overwhelming majority of COVID-19-related deaths in Ontario...Based on data by Public Health Ontario, unvaccinated people accounted for 93 per cent of COVID-19 fatalities between Dec. 14, 2020 and June 12, 2021.





In the US: Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the shots have been and an indication that deaths per day — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the vaccine.

An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May shows that “breakthrough” infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 107,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That’s about 1.1%. And only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8%, or five deaths per day on average.






In the UK: The health secretary added it was more important to track the number of hospitalizations and deaths caused by the virus — outcomes that he said have been tempered by new covid-19 treatments and a successful vaccination campaign.

“What matters more than anything is hospitalization and death numbers, and that is where the link has been severely weakened,” Javid said.

“Just to put a number on that, if I may — at the moment, we are seeing around 25,000 new cases a day," he said. "The last time we saw numbers like that … we sadly had deaths of around 500 a day. And now we are at about one-thirtieth of that.”


For Ontario:
Well considering that the vast majority of deaths happened before we even had vaccinations in the arms of the elderly, that statistic is not surprising at all. What I would like to know what is the death rate/hospitalization rate for people under 50 here in Ontario/Canada? Haven't been able to find those statistics.
 
I started commenting on Twitter in response to you asking me why I’m not commenting on the Twitter examples you are throwing my way you fucking moron. You asked for a Twitter discussion dumbass.

If you think the world is without biases you are a lost cause. I’ve mentioned the cessation of the Fairness Doctrine which I responded to Sy barite about (go read it). Once that ended the biases that were already there exasperated further. Even then, that applied to traditional media and social media is uncharted territory. Fuck, even Zuckerberg went before Congress looking for guidance. I’ve also said I want it back but I recognize that is the playing field we play in. In 2016, Clinton lost and the right called the left cry babies. Now the right are bigger cry babies than the left ever was. How’s that Arizona “audit” coming and how many election fraud lawsuit did Trump win?

Trump incited an insurrection (those arrested charged even admitted to that in their defence), those private companies acted to stop the rhetoric that could cause it to happen again and that is well within their legal right to do. Trump will lose his lawsuit and you’ll see because the first amendment doesn’t apply to private companies. Your big baby Trump couldn’t deal with losing an election fair and square as his ego couldn’t handle it. But his rhetoric is continuing to divide the country, caused an insurrection and now some of his followers are even saying that either he’s reinstated in August or there will be civil war. So social media private companies can do whatever they damn well please, if it’s within their legal rights, to stop that rhetorical to prevent more insurrections and violence. You are the one with a bug up his ass about Trump and the Twitter ban, so you want to argue his side, then argue it and don’t run away and hide saying you don’t have to argue his case. The mere fact you started commenting on it means you started arguing his side a d now you are running for cover. The burden in any case is on the complainant and not the defendant. But go ahead and retreat hoping Sy barite will come and rescue you. As for “what did he tweet” specifically? If you had brains you could do your own damn research.


I don’t have a Pinterest account either so I don’t give a shit what they do. But this is probably your most laughable point yet. “Collusion”? here’s Rudy talking collusion
Now, this is so rich that your guy, that you defended, will use ”collusion is not a crime” as a defence when it’s in his favour then you use as an argument here that it is indeed a crime. Well, what is it? Is it a crime or not? Well, whatever it is you bringing it up is a clear “double standard”. Did it even ever occur to you that it wasn’t collusion at all but independent, and immediate, reactions to January 6th riots, and they all saw this was a result of Trump’s rhetoric so they had to act quickly? No, because you yourself are completely biased and won’t look at anything that doesn’t support your already entrenched view point.


That is a very rich statement “agreed by everyone”. You mean all 320 million Americans or just you and Sy barite because “everyone’s” is not commenting here, just a few of us. Sybarite (no space) has been quiet in this discussion as it turned to Trump so why are you trying to drag him in. He doesn’t seem to me to be a guy afraid to speak his mind so if he wants to say something, I’m sure he would. Even so, you now have to run and hide behind them because you can’t make you own case. “Everyone” here sees that is how you operate: yell, deflect, distract, retreat and hide behind sy barite. Fight your own fights coward.

I said he could call a press conference and the reporters could have a scrum and ask questions. They can also issue a statement. Not once did I say he should called CNN for an interview. Stop making shit up.

You write essays, and say nothing at all. You’re a joke.

You don’t even know the tweet that got him suspended, but you’re commenting anyway. Lol

Funny how this conversation started with the Pfizer CEO not taking the vaccine. But you keep changing the subject because you don’t know your facts.

You’re pathetic.


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You write essays, and say nothing at all. You’re a joke.

You don’t even know the tweet that got him suspended, but you’re commenting anyway. Lol

Funny how this conversation started with the Pfizer CEO not taking the vaccine. But you keep changing the subject because you don’t know your facts.

You’re pathetic.


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You are the dumbass piece of shit no nothing at all that changed the subject by linking a source titled “Biden is a Pedo”. I called you out on the credibility of your sources which by you linking them highlights how you have no credibility whatever. And as soon as the debate/conversation starts going over your head, which happens very fast and very often, you go running for cover behind sy barite’s shadow.

Stick to your Uber delivery job moron.
 
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You are the dumbass piece of shit no nothing at all that changed the subject by linking a source titled “Biden is a Pedo”. I called you out on the credibility of your sources which by you l8nking them highlights how you have no credibility whatever. And as soon as the debate/conversation starts going over your head, which happens very fast and very often, you go running for cover behind sy barite’s shadow.

Stick to your Uber delivery job moron.

Was that not the Pfizer CEO? Would you have been happy if that same clip came from the CNN YouTube page?

Have some self respect, lose with grace. You suck at this.


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Was that not the Pfizer CEO? Would you have been happy if that same clip came from the CNN YouTube page?

Have some self respect, lose with grace. You suck at this.


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You are such a dumbass you don’t even listen or watch you own fucking posts and now you are running for cover to deflect like the little stupid piece of shit you are.

OppaiLover called you out on your dumbass post. You attempted to throw around anti-vaxxer bullshit by inferring the Pfizer CEO wasn’t going to get it. What your dumbass failed to notice or highlight was that the video was from December 2020 and the CEO (a healthy man) said he’d get it when it was his time which was not December 2020 because he didn’t want to jump the line. He then got the vaccination as soon as he could. I called you out on your source since you always gravitate to the conspiracy theorist bullshit sites and NEVER look at the other side. You are completely biased and completely over matched by everyone here.
 
For Ontario: Well considering that the vast majority of deaths happened before we even had vaccinations in the arms of the elderly, that statistic is not surprising at all.

The elderly were the very first to be vaccinated. It only starts from the end of last year and goes right through to June. Are you doubting vaccines are massively reducing covid deaths? I can produce additional statistics in that regard if it's helpful.

What I would like to know what is the death rate/hospitalization rate for people under 50 here in Ontario/Canada? Haven't been able to find those statistics.

I've posted pretty extensively about those rates previously. Numbers for people affected under 50 are massively lower than people over 50. But needless to say a lot of deaths at whatever age group equals a locked up society, which is why the problem needs to be solved even if you personally feel in the clear. Those specific statistics you're looking for can be found here (Figure 5): COVID-19 daily epidemiology update - Canada.ca
 
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