Folliculitis

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***Deep Breath....***
I had a new client today who has a number of serious health issues that she disclosed on her intake form. I asked her about some, and looked up others in my pathology book just to be sure, as some of her conditions involve a suppressed immune system. Everything checked out ok, and I proceeded with the massage. She had what looked to be some moderate acne on her back that was healing and of course virtually unavoidable, but I've grown accustomed to that sort of thing, so it didn't phase me at all. As I began working on her legs I noticed bandaids all over her shins, so I questioned her about it--she said her doctor told her it was folliculitis and nothing to be concerned about. She was dismissive of the diagnosis, saying it was a throw-away because he couldn't really figure out what was going on. Needless to say, I avoided all those areas, and discovered her arms were also covered in sores and bandaids, which I avoided as best I could. But of course I was wondering if it was really acne on her back...

So I've looked up folliculitis in the web because I couldn't find it in my pathology book, and I'm a little concerned because there are numerous types: bacterial, viral, fungal--you name it. And my cuticles are a mess and I have 2 paper cuts from right before her appointment! I'm not freaking out, but I am concerned...I washed thoroughly and used sanitizer, and typically I'm not a germophobe. Please, MassagePlanetL community, is there anything else I should do to protect myself and my future clients from exposure?
 


youch........ i don't know anything about this, but didn't want to just read the post and not make a comment since i can tell how upset you are by this.

hugs and good luck!
 


Ugh - sorry.

I guess if you've cleaned everything (door knobs? Lotion bottle and holster buckle clip?) you can clean then that's about it. I might get some garlic infused olive oil and mix it with tea tree and lavender essential oils and work that over some lymphatic drainage points tonight just to keep myself nice and cleared out (Works WONDERS when you get that first tiny tingle in your throat - that treatment will nip a flu in the bud!) and make sure you drink LOTS of water and GET SOME REST tonight.

Lavender, chamomile and ylang ylang essential oils will help with that as well.

*hugs*

Angela
 


Eek. I can understand why you'd be so concerned with band-aids all over her legs. I'll pass along what little I know about folliculitis. (Or maybe it should be "folliculitis") In my personal experience, folliculitis is what I might call "acne of the hair follicules". On me, it's essentially the exact same thing as acne and responds extremely well to antibiotics. I do have both, though, and on my upper body it's pretty difficult to distinguish between the two. On my limbs, though, it can look a little different. By your description, I'm inclined to think her conditions are related as well... but of course I don't know. I also had no idea that folliculitis could be caused by anything other than bacteria, so it sounds like more questions are in order. Sadly, it sounds like she gets hit with it pretty hard, poor thing.

So, to address whether you need to take precautions, for lack of any other information I'll answer you as if she and I are "skin sisters". I think you did fine in avoiding the open sore area, like you would for anyone else. Maybe think of it like psoriasis or eczema? In my case, it is not communicable and not something I bother mentioning apart from acne unless it's really bad. But I'll usually cancel appointments at that point, purely out of embarrassment. :)

(edited for clarity)
 


Thank you for the advice and kind words. It's funny, I remember in school going over it briefly, and it's not on the short list of communicable skin conditions, but when I read that it can be viral, I thought, "oh no...."

I think it must be bacterial n this case because this woman receives massage weekly from another MT who is caring for her dying father.

Time will tell!
 


Hi Ella,

I know this is nerve wracking.

Unlike you, I am a germaphobe ;0)

You may have already taken these precautions, but I keep liquid bandage with me at all times in case I do get superficial papercuts or have cuticle issues. I always make sure that my hands are sealed before working both for my clients sake and my own.

I know this situation is so difficult because I have been in a similiar situation when working with a client who had two big cysts on his back and it was unnerving to me as I worked that he did not tell me about them before we started working. I asked while in session and he said that his physician said they were 'cysts' and he has them biopsied once a year. Looking back I wished I had just put on gloves.

There are numerous coneforum.xxxious conditions and we must protect ourselves and clients from them. I am not saying that the following is what your client had because she did go to the doctor and he/she didn't diagnose MRSA and I think MRSA is easily diagnosable, however it is just an illustration of why it is so important to not take any chances.

MRSA is a staph infection that can live on the skin of people that are otherwise perfectly healthy. It can be antibiotic resistant and extremely coneforum.xxxious. It can live on sheets and other linens. It can also be fatal if it gets into the lymphatic system and massage therapists are on the frontline of putting ourselves at a lot of risk for it.

Someone I work with was afraid she was exposed to it...it turns out she wasn't, but she spoke to a physician about it and he let her know that massage therapists are at a very high risk for getting it if they don't take proper precautions like washing there hands extremely well, washing sheets in hot water with bleach, making sure any cut or abrasion no matter how minor is sealed with chemical bandage or wearing a glove.

I hope I don't sound preachy or alarmist, I just don't want you to get sick. ;0)

Personally, if I have any question in regards to open cuts or sores on a clients body I just don gloves and explain to them that it for their protection. In most cases I think they respect the decision and realize that I would do the same with other clients and that they don't have to worry that I could be spreading a communicable infection to myself or my other clients. As well, I don't always trust that a diagnosis that someone tells me about is correct. Doctors are not always right and as your client said it folliculitis sounded like a cop out diagnosis to her...it could have been something else.

Take care...
 


I am also a germaphobe. And as I was taught us in school, I never will massage an area that is locally inflamed or infected. As you probably know. follicutlitis simply means inflammation of the follicals, not necessarily infection of, though... it usually is. My experience with many people that have local, chronic infections DO downplay it. Example: client with obvious athletes feet, didn't mention it on client intake form because it was "better." I was a student at the time, but also a nurse. A couple of younger,less experienced students massaged his feet, but complained of his poor hygiene. EEK! Just EEK! I kindly told him he needed to start using his "cream" again and not to let others massage them till completely clear, so we don't spread it around on him or us. I think people are often embarrased, or the condition is chronic and they get a bit desensitized or "relaxed" or just honestly "forgetful" about their condition. Please excuse misspellings. A wee bit tired tonight. Good luck. I'd tell her for her as gently as possible, for her protection and others, her locally affected areas need to be left undisturbed by massage untill completely healed.
 
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    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Superstar Lucy, Young RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌLUCY AND HELEN๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  38. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: Superstar Bobo, Jap/Chin Akino, Indian Girl Radika and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน
  39. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธVivian๐ŸŒธPriya๐ŸŒธMelissa Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  40. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. KITTY (12:30pm-9pm) : is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new
  41. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  42. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA & TIFFANY; EVENING SASHA & SHAYLA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs
  44. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Nico works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  45. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (India) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  46. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI (Vietnam/HK), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ANNA (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY (Philippines/VN) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  47. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  48. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard street west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New girl MIMI๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ apple- Sweet school girl with a large serving of naughtiness Angela- Slim beauty with long legs and nice proportions Julia- Exotic beauty with great service and attitude kโ€†k- Spunky fun in... Attachments Call and text 6478910699 Ask...
  49. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: wonderspa: โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available open long weekend ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily, amazing touch, really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ‘
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young cute Taiwanese 25โ€™s slime open mind and sexy flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open mind, sexy Coco and pretty GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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