Fibromyalgia treatment plans

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I'm interested in learning more about treatment plans you have utilized with fibromyalgia clients. I have been working with a client who was diagnosed with FMS shortly after a severe car accident.

I have been using a combination of myofascial release, post isometric relaxation and general swedish techniques. During our myofascial sessions she had some profound emotional releases that I've encouraged her to journal what has come up during these sessions.

She recently expereinced her first flare-up since we began working together and I'm wondering what techniques have been benefical during these acute phases.
 


Fibro sessions are really based on the client and the day of the massage. Clients with fibro can have sudden changes in what pressure they can take - what areas need work - what results they get.

I can use deep techniques on some fibro clients - medium on some and only light on some. Pressure can be handled on one area and not the another.

IMO, to get the best treatment fibro clients need to commit to massage on a very regular basis. At least once per week. With sessions lasting as long as they need to to get to all areas that need worked that day.

I assess the client each time and make my plan from there - frequency of massage seems to be the only thing I "plan" and suggest for them. The plan changes all the time - multiple techniques are needed.

HTH!
 


I work with this particular client twice a week for 90 minute sessions. Like you stated the pressure, technique and areas worked vary session to session.

I was just wondering what other techniques or approaches I could try with her.

I discovered early on in our sessions together that I could not approach the bodywork as I had for other chronic pain clients. I was fustrated that we weren't seeing "results". But the more I read about FMS the more I realized that it's not about results as much as maintaining a degree of function and mobility.

What are the triggers to flare ups? Stress? Illness? A certain type of massage? I haven't found much on this in any of the research I've read.
 


Aspen said:
I work with this particular client twice a week for 90 minute sessions. Like you stated the pressure, technique and areas worked vary session to session.

I was just wondering what other techniques or approaches I could try with her.

I discovered early on in our sessions together that I could not approach the bodywork as I had for other chronic pain clients. I was fustrated that we weren't seeing "results". But the more I read about FMS the more I realized that it's not about results as much as maintaining a degree of function and mobility.

What are the triggers to flare ups? Stress? Illness? A certain type of massage? I haven't found much on this in any of the research I've read.

Do you know trigger point at all? I use this on all my fibro clients.

I do deep work on the fibro clients that can handle it. Stripping and cross fiber friction mixed in the the trigger point work. I always finish with swedish and feathering. You just have to go session to session.

PNF or PIR is great. Really good results.

Flare ups can occur from many things. Yes, stress, illness, overdoing it one day, etc. They are already in a chronic state of injury so overdoing things is easy. What an average person can do (carry three grocery bags in from the car) many fibro sufferers can't.
Internal factors - IBS acting up
External factors - weather and weather changes. Missing a massage.
Massage that is too deep can cause flare ups so can stretching to far. You have to listen to what your hands are telling you especially more so for fibro clients.

If you are interested a book on fibro I recommend:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1572242388/qid=1133805838/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/104-6166242-2079923?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

Although there are hundreds more out there that I am sure a good also.
 
body organ deficiency

I have recently learned that pain with Fibro is caused by a bosy system deficiency. The body is unable to process sugar in the body so... it turns to lactic acid in the muscles and causes crepidus... sharp glass like "crunchies" in the muscles..
clients should REDUCE sugar intake immediatley.
see a nutritionalist: sometimes a chiropractor may offer this type of evaluation as well. and offer supplements like mine does.

Just a thought
 


Cellfood might help.
http://www.luminahealth.com
I am a convert of the cellfood drops and the spray vits - I feel great when I use them regularly. The person who turned me on to them has FMS.
Jill/sagetherapist
 


My sister has fibro, so I do a lot of these as a volunteer from personal desire to learn.

The biggest thing I've seen is the fibro sufferers need routine. It's good for them to get on a regular schedule with everything in their lives.

Fibromyalgia is a very interesting disease, and there are several good books on the subject. For me, I find it interesting reading.

Good things for fibro people:
- Regular exercise. Severe sufferers may do well to start off with lighter, no-impact exercise, like light swimming.
- Supplements are helpful. Glucosamine/Condrotin/MSM and probiotics are some.
- Heat and massage are biggies.
- Journalling is a huge help for many.
- Muscle relaxers are needed by many at first, unfortunately.
- Even one hot meal per day can make a big difference in mood. Nutrition is very important. Like a previous poster said, sugar should be minimal, and I feel they should completely work their way off massageplanetfeine. Whole grains in higher quantities, like 5 grain breads, can be helpful for digestion in some, but may not be immediately tolerated by all.
- Early to bed, early to rise is a good sleep cycle to work into if possible.

Sleep cycles are really important for these patients, and they should set a specific bed-time and lie down to sleep even if they don't feel sleepy just to get into the routine. No massageplanetfeine, nicotene, computer, or tv 30-60 minutes before bed-time, and there are many ways to create a soothing sleep environment.

Fibro after an accident is a common one, but I've also seen it caused by things like:
- Infections
- Abusive relationships
- Bad body image
- Body trust issues (previous rape, sexual abuse, etc)
- Surgeries
- Post Partum issues
- Any long bouts of illness
- Serious betrayal (cheating spouse, etc)
- etc etc

...so letting them talk is good. Any emotional release on their part is great. I've found that simply acknowledging their suffering is really helpful! Like saying: It's not all in your head. You've been through a lot. It's ok to feel sad.

But I never try to go more aggressively in the treatment than the customer is ready for. All treatment for them should be safe and comforting.

Other than that, you should be able to treat however you feel appropriate given their current state. Any comforting touch, heat, stretching, and circulation is wonderful for fibro. It's good to communicate with them frequently during treatment in regards to their comfort level with muscle pain. Muscle spasms happen A LOT with some of them. I've noticed that erectors, lats, and QL's are commonly more sensitive, as well as the obvious places like the ITB.

Was that a rant? I think that was way too much info! Sorry...I have a real deep interest in the subject...

OH yeah, and facial/ear/scalp massage is good. Also, it's not always a good idea to use strong smelling analgesics or essential oils.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’•โฃ4386 Sheppard Avenue east ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’˜Monday, ๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹ Cici, ๐Ÿ’—tall and slim, nice personality, pretty, very good pressure point treatment and over the top finish technique..๐Ÿ’‹โฃ Natalia, โคa full body Spanish lady, curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹โ€ŠEva, ๐Ÿ’–curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish . ๐Ÿ’ž Jessica,๐Ÿ’‹ slim, and sexy body, very pretty. High energy session ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ”‹416 297-7488๐Ÿ”‹
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  41. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : CLOUDIA is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white skin
  42. lemon_tree:
    ๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’•a discreet entrance to 4155 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 201๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’–Monday, ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹ Carmen,๐Ÿ’‹ (Candy) โฃbeautiful, dark hair to shoulder, tall and slim but busty, and does very relaxing treatment with over the top finish. *Also goes by Lily. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ“ž647 348-2899๐Ÿ“ž
  43. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (11AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  44. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  45. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  46. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services... Cindy
  47. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŒนWe're waiting for you!๐ŸŒน Today (Monday), our amazing attendants are Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Lucy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky ๐Ÿ˜˜, Mia ๐Ÿค— and Sophie ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, LINDA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! LINDA is a sweet Vietnamese honey with great skills. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with
  49. Red_Pearl_Spa:
    โค๐Ÿ’‹4385 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 5๐Ÿ”บ๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ดMonday, ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’‹ Tammy, โฃfull body treatment by an amazing attendant. good overall treatment. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ โ˜Ž๏ธ 647 352-1588โ˜Ž๏ธ
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and very pleasing
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