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Have you seen the article in this month's Massage Magazine about the Chubinsky Method? It sounds intriguing to save your hands and that the client supposedly can't tell that you are using a tool.

What do you think about this as an investment? Supposedly only 3 people have returned it out of 600. :smt102

I would hope the DVD is useful.
 


Hi Denise,
I seen that article too and I thought it looked very interesting..kinda pricey..but it would be worth it..I cannot afford it right now but maybe
someday.. :)
 


I searched and called some of the people that left testomials on his site but I never connected with anyone that used it directly. I did talk to an ex? of one therapist and she said the guy loved the tool. She thought you could do much the same with just regular stones but admitted she wasn't a therapist. I don't think that I'd spend $180 w/o some one giving me real feedback first.
 


I saw that as well and as much as I would love something else to extend my career, until I see some first-hand unbiased reviews, I'm not willing to spend that kind of money on a tool..
 


Hi, I recently graduated school and passed my state national and just wanted to tell you that I purchased this "nobble" which is the chubinsky method after my instructor had shown us it. My instructor happened to be one of the people who wrote part of that article in massage magazine. I can't tell you enough how fantastic this tool is. I have used it on over 100 clients that I have worked on, and every single client has absolutely loved it, and always asks what is it you're doing with your hands? That feels sooo good. They never know you are using a tool. It does come with a DVD also, but I was fortunate enough to have my instructor Bob Storey, show me how to use it also. It definitely saves your hands and it releases negative ions which go through deeply to the client, and you don't even have to use much pressure. Any time clients have had some really tight muscles, I have used this nobble and the part of the body I would have worked on went from solidly hard to soft as butter. I really am happy I invested in it, as I think it makes a huge difference to my massage.

It is very different to just using stones, or any other object actually, as I have tried many other tools just to compare - and let me tell you there absolutely is no comparison.

Hope this has helped out a little.

Lynette.
 


Thanks Lynette!
I appreciate that you took the time to write. Is there something specifically you do with the tool that you can't do with something else?

Anyone else?
 


The chubinsky method "nobble" is made of ebonite and releases negative ions - and this is what makes a huge difference to using any other kind of tool such as stones etc. Also this tool has been made specifically to fit ergonomically in your hand so that it feels like it's part of your hand and the client can't tell the difference either. There is no strain in using this tool, and all I can tell you is that every single client I've worked on has loved my massage and I know a big part of that is thanks to the chubinsky method. It saves your thumbs and hands and my instructor said that oftentimes massage therapists have burn out after so many years with their thumbs or hands of doing massage, but this tool saves your hands and my instructor Bob Storey is proof of that as he has been using this tool for many years now.

Hope this helps.
 


Thanks for the feedback Lynetteanne. It sounds like a good investment and I am thinking of getting one. Does the DVD help in offering ways to use it?
 


I just checked it out on the web and it sounds really intriguing!! I would also love to hear additional reviews from people on MassagePlanetL to see what they think of it.
 
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I love the idea of this tool as I've been looking for something to incorporate into massage. I've used hot stones, selenite wands and have been looking at bambo massage but am not completely sold on that yet. This is something that seems like it would be more natural for me to incorporate. $180 is a lot, but with the 60 day guarantee, if it doesn't work well for me I'll just return it.
 
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Just adding the link so anyone interested in this thread can easily access what is being talked about:

  • Vladimir Chubinsky Method Massage - http://www.vcmassage.com/
 
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I didn't think I could take anything named 'Chubinsky' seriously (teeheee)then I read the review and the website - I'm intrigued and have put it on my wishlist for 2012.
 
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COMT said:
I didn't think I could take anything named 'Chubinsky' seriously.

I thought the very same! It's really no wonder word hasn't spread about this tool ::snerk:: as he stated in his interview for Massage Magazine. Hoping I get this for a late xmas / early bday present!
 
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I've known about this for awhile. I cant just run out and purchase every tool that catches my eye. Hopefully someone who purchases this will post their thoughts. I would love to hear from a therapists point of view!!
 
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GreenDragonfly said:
I've known about this for awhile. I cant just run out and purchase every tool that catches my eye. Hopefully someone who purchases this will post their thoughts. I would love to hear from a therapists point of view!!

I'm ordering one today, hoping to have it for Christmas so I can start working with it soon. I'll be sure to post my experience with it.
 
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WARNING: Rant

If your thumbs or whatever are suffering, you've been neglecting your self-care, recovery, and body mechanics. If you aren't sure how to change those for the better, get help! Grabbing a tool isn't going to correct the more fundamental problems, though it may mask it for a while longer.

I have never met a massage tool that did something my hands and body can't do better. If a client's body isn't responding well to what you are doing, it means you need to improve your understanding of anatomy, physiology, neurology, and how to apply manual therapies to elicit a more positive response. Sometimes you need to completely rethink your whole approach and start from scratch with an entirely different strategy and set of goals. Clinical reasoning is key.

Tissues do not need to be pressed harder, scraped/frictioned more forcefully, made much hotter or colder, or otherwise forced to change. They will change themselves just fine in response to lighter pressure, more gentle handling, and being given opportunities to safely increase mobility and function. Work with it, not on it.

In any case, the miniscule emission of "negative ions" from the ebonite is laughable and has absolutely no measurable impact on human tissues. It sounds like good marketing copy, but it's a snake oil claim.

Rant Over.
 
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JasonE said:
If your thumbs or whatever are suffering, you've been neglecting your self-care, recovery, and body mechanics.

I wholeheartedly agree with you on this and hopefully this is something that was covered thoroughly for everyone in basic massage theory and training. I've been practicing for more than six years and have routinely used my forearms for the majority of my strokes and olecranon to sustain deeper pressure, using my thumbs minimally and usually if that is the only thing that "fits".

I have never met a massage tool that did something my hands and body can't do better.

This is something I have also always agreed with. I have taken many massage courses and workshops over the years and have had teachers who love to use tools and have demonstrated the way that they use them in treatment to lessen wear and tear on their hands. Everything from bongers to thumb tools to tuning forks, etc. I tried it out and didn't agree with it for my own personal practice. In fact, I still believe that nothing replaces human touch. But my thoughts don't change the success of my teachers and the way that they practice massage. However, after years of working full-time + (5 - 7 clients a day, on average, six days a week), in my personal experience, body mechanics and self care will not be enough for me to sustain longevity in a field that I love. That may not be true for you, but that is what I am finding to be the case for me. I do not seek to replace the usage of my primary tools, instead I'd like to find something complimentary. What appeals to me about the orginal topic of this thread is that it provides heat, is not wood, plastic, or a stone that must be heated seperately. It also looks like it will be comfortable for me to work with and for my clients to experience.

Tissues do not need to be pressed harder, scraped/frictioned more forcefully, made much hotter or colder, or otherwise forced to change. They will change themselves just fine in response to lighter pressure, more gentle handling, and being given opportunities to safely increase mobility and function. Work with it, not on it.

The foundation on which my deep tissue training was built upon, and again I agree. I've converted many clients to deep tissue work who had received it previously by therapists who did not have that same understanding of "working with, not on". They did not know that deep tissue work does not go hand in hand with force (pain). I've also had clients who do believe that they require force, that if it doesn't hurt it's not working, and I have to talk them through the way that I work as I work so they can see how much more effective it is.

In any case, the miniscule emission of "negative ions" from the ebonite is laughable and has absolutely no measurable impact on human tissues. It sounds like good marketing copy, but it's a snake oil claim.

I must admit that this is something I'm not knowledgable about and it is the least of my interests in regard to the product this topic was started to discuss. However, I know many clients and therapists who enjoy the usage of crystal salt lamps for the negative ion benefits. Maybe it's beneficial, maybe it's placebo. It's not for me to judge something that works for someone else.

As a therapist who often seeks different ways to practice, even if it's simply taking a one day workshop on a modality that I've already studied for the purpose of learning it again with a fresh perspective from someone different. It keeps me excited about my work and gives my long time clients something new to experience. I'm looking forward to working with this tool and incorporating it into my practice.
 
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JasonE said:
WARNING: Rant

If your thumbs or whatever are suffering, you've been neglecting your self-care, recovery, and body mechanics. If you aren't sure how to change those for the better, get help! Grabbing a tool isn't going to correct the more fundamental problems, though it may mask it for a while longer.

I have never met a massage tool that did something my hands and body can't do better. .

I understand what you are saying. I am not in pain at all and this is not the reason I am interested. I'm not a 'purist' and I think the idea is fine for those who shun all products to brag that they use their hands only. I think that's fantastic! For myself, I use certain slow techniques on certain people that are often assisted by the use of a tool. Hot or warm rocks are a favorite. I use them when the need or desire arises. I love it, the clients love it and it gets the results I am after without causing damage or discomfort for either of us. win win!

I suppose it is a rant of my own to see the use of tools disparaged as if only those who are less skilled use them. No doubt I have far to go in my career, learning new things all the time! But for some things, to each their own!
 
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    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, & Ruby, *nicole tracy cindy RUBY is new today. Details to follow... Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true.
  26. Flowers Spa:
    โœฐ BLUEXADO SPA โœฐ 416.357.9797 โœฐ 1102 Centre St, Unit #6 Vaughan ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI | SHERRY a HongKong woman, is of average height and build, with very smooth skin. She is gorgeous and friendly. ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH | LINDA a 21-year-old Vietnamese, offers comfortable and professional full-body treatments. ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ HANNA Vietnamese good, energetic medium body; also does lighter treatments with emphasis on service. โœฐ BLUEXADO SPA โœฐ 416.357.9797 โœฐ
  27. PB888:
    fantasy spa
  28. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธMALIYA, ASHA, NINA, PAOLA, ANGEL, AAVI, PAYAL PEARL, SANA, KIRAN๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  29. do you need a customer:
    I wander what will happen when imagination come in the spa for a wellness check curious if anyone still there or on the deportation bus
  30. do you need a customer:
    Never tell a place the truth they block you so they can continue with the fake people
  31. do you need a customer:
    Only gee has limited English all they no is tips
  32. do you need a customer:
    Pictures are fake they do not look like that
  33. do you need a customer:
    If your looking for more then the dirty whores try elsewhere, but if your into that bee is there heavily used
  34. do you need a customer:
    All the gifts you need to take home too
  35. do you need a customer:
    Cheap brothal
  36. do you need a customer:
    If your a 10 min full service guy go see bee ,ada amd lucky
  37. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699 Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Friday๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New girl Tina๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ :heart4 Diana - Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility CiCi- Exotic beauty with great service...
  38. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ SANA, SARIKA, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  39. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong Kong
  40. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who Wa
  41. Golden Flower Spa:
    โœฐ 905.258.0777 โœฐ 8380 Kennedy Rd Unit #C6, Unionville Markham ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ Misa (New) 19Yrs Vietnamese beautiful pretty face, long black hair ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต Tracy (New) 22Yrs, petite Japanese, young & pretty face ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ญ Monica (New) Colombian | Thailand, beautiful & shapely ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ Sonia | Aniy from India is young & curvy, very pretty, lightly toned...After 9PM ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ Mimi | Candy (New) 19Yrs Vietnamese beautiful face, very friendly โœฐ GOLDEN FLOWER SPA โœฐ 905.258.0777 โœฐ
  42. KSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: HELEN, SUKI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HELEN is a pretty Chinese babe, 24, 5โ€™3โ€ & 115 Lbs, can provide good services. SUKI is 23, 5โ€™2โ€ & 100 Lbs, 34C with a slim & sweet sexy body. CINDY is slim & pretty with a 5โ€™3โ€ sexy body, big boobs 34D, and a nice curvy bum. Cindy can relax all your cares
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely Mia and Jenny Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  44. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Friday๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New jap girl Tina๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ :heart4 Diana - Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility CiCi- Exotic beauty with great service...
  45. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Michelle,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Sonia,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  46. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cici , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  47. Birchmount&14th:
    FRIDAY at ๐๐ˆ๐‘๐‚๐‡๐Œ๐Ž๐”๐๐“ & ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’๐ญ๐ก: SUMMER & YUKI. Birchmount Rd & 14th Ave., Markham, ON. Call or Text for details and appointment. โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฐโ˜Ž๏ธ SUMMER is a beautiful, tall, and very versatile Thai lady. ๐—ฌ๐—จ๐—ž๐—œ is here today to provide an amazing professional massage. We are open 24 Hours daily. We have clean rooms and plenty of free parking. LEONA and FRIENDS Birchmount Rd & 14th
  48. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at Sugar Love Spa: Tiffany & Zoey. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž 437-365-2688 โ˜Ž TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey, and can drive you wild. ZOEY is a Euro/Cabibbean mix beauty, 36C with a slim waist & nice bum. Zoey has excellent mouth skills and amazing cfs finish.
  49. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yoyo ๐Ÿ˜is beautiful tall sexy student. She has nice bum and very good massage and has great playful service. Such a beautiful sexy smile. She knows how too please you with her slim sexy body and bring joy and happiness๐Ÿ˜Real pictures of Y
  50. SunriseRH:
    FRIDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: MIA, MICHELLE & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ MIA is a young Vietnamese beauty with the looks and the skills. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5โ€™2โ€ & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€
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