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Does anyone have frustrations on parts being skipped during a full body massage?.In my experience the muscles that get missed of most are the glutes, upper thigh top of quads,abs,inner thigh.It's frustrating when you pay for a full body massage yet only half the body is done.

WS
 
Couldn't agree more. A huge amount of therapists don't seem to think hands and/or feet are part of the body either......
 
A massage therapist's POV......

In my experience the majority of clients have areas of their body that they prefer not to be massaged. Therefore, I see it as my responsibility during the consultation to agree with the client what areas will be omitted and note it on the consent form.

By default I don't massage the gluteus muscle group, but will do so on request, or will recommend it if the client has specific problems.

Full body massage means so many things to so many people and is further complecated by the reservations of tutors.

IMO, I think this is more of an issue of communication and as therapists we should be clearer in what we will do. On the other hand clients who are are experienced at receiving massage, should make their wishes known when visiting a new therapist.

Myarka.
 
absolutely agree

and sorry myarka, but if you advertise a full body massage, but do not actually include the glutes (or for anyone else, anything else) as standard it really is up to you to qualify what you are about to do that is short of the advertised expectations.
 
and just to add, from a clients point of view, I tend to trust the therapist to do what is offered. When one asks questions like "which bits do you massage ?" or "do you actually massage to the top of the inner thighs ?" or "do you do the tum" you can feel the red flags going up all over the place, so i stopped quizzing therapists about what they actually massage a long time ago. If i receive a massage that I regard as incomplete I just do not return.

and definitions of whole of body are a "trade" problem, not a client problem - most of us think we understand plain english, and are not aware that some tutors or therapists have different interpretations of the same offering
 
I think we are saying the same thing, it's about communication. I have no problem with clients wanting a full body massage to the extent you are looking for. But I have to be sensitive to the needs of my clients where the majority have preferences of what they wish to be omitted.

I also agree that therapists should not omit parts without consultation and that's why I explain to all my clients the sequence I use. I do this for both direct and indirect techniques.

Myarka.
 
It is impossible to give a thorough FULL body massage with consultation in an hour, and I refuse to time myself to only 7 mins per leg ect like I was trained, as some areas need more work taking up more time.

Full body massage is an advert of what is available, all areas that will be massaged should be discussed during the consultation.
 
Hi, it is a communication problem, a timing problem, and a training problem.

It's not really possible Whitesnake to do a comprehensive full body massage in a 1 hour session.

There does definitely a communication problem between clients & therapists and this needs to be resolved. Some clients don't like belly, inner thigh and buttock rubs.

And as for training, a lot of training courses don't cover working the gluts, and may be conservative about thigh work. We still live in an "anal" society.

What I do is offer 1 hour treatments for specific problems (which is the bulk of my work as a solution-focused massage therapist), and 1.5+ hours for a more comprehensive full body treatment, including the thighs, gluts and belly (unless this is the problematic area then they get worked regardless of timing).

A simple easy solution. Oh, and as for money, I charge a little less for 1.5 hours to encourage clients to go this route.

RP
 
Why not pay in 'FULL' i.e. pay HALF the prior agreed fee; enjoy the look of stunned surprise on the therapists face and then explain that if you (the therapist) took your car to a petrol station and asked for a FULL tank and it was only half filled would you pay the FULL price!?

Agree anyway with the sentiment of your post. Jeez how much work do the gluteal muscles do in daily life only to be cruelly neglected by the majority of the 'Full Body' sic massage brigade Not to mention their connected mates the thigh muscles.
 
I agree with you Luke, gluts need a good going over. I would say over 90% of my clients have their gluts done. But that is unusual, most therapists don't and its such a pity.

As an added note, I just realised I don't often use terms like "full body", just what the treatment is good for. [two minutes later] I've just checked a leaflet and full body is not mentioned. Hurray I'm off the hook!!! Prehaps those who use the term "full body" need to redefine what that means

best wishes

RP
 
Yeah it's a question that kneads to be arsekd

What is a Full Body Massage?

It would be funnier to have a drawing of the human body with all the bits that aren't included in the so called/fraudulent 'full body' massage, missing
 
I trained over 10 years ago and never occurred to me not to include glutes until seeing the discussions here. Agree it can be difficult to cover everything properly in an hour especially if there's a problem area which needs more work and, if I'm a client, a one hour massage which tries to do the whole body can feel superficial. I don't see many new massage clients these days but, if I do, I'll book them in for 90 mins including a 15 min consultation. This includes checking if there are any areas they want to avoid or concentrate on and time to explain what I'm proposing to do & why. Then we've got 75 mins which for me is about right for a full body.
 
Agree completely. I paid for a 90 minute full body massage and the lady did not do my glutes, hamstrings, and barely did my abs. Not only that, she stopped to get lotion ever minute, so contact was constantly broken and the massage was constantly interrupted. She did less in 90 minutes than some therapists can do in 45! The other issue I seem to have with some therapists is they spend 60 out of 90 minutes working on my back doing the same strokes over and over. Why? Don't my legs, arms, head and neck, feet, glutes, abs...etc, need just as much attention?

Also, as a guy, I want abs, thighs, quads, and glutes done..espeically because I have fibromyalgia. But I am afraid to ask therapists anything because like others, I don't want to set off "red flags". If the massage is not thorough, I just don't come back.
 
I think a lot of massage therapists are just not comfortable with the whole (full) human body; consequently they develop their own 'style' which may be defined by the areas of the body they 'don't do' (because they are scared).

Confident and straightforward practitioners rarely encounter problems with clients asking for extra services (perhaps?) especially if they discuss what is/isn't included before the session or before the booking.

The number of therapists who are prepared to take the money and then not give a genuine full body massage is in my experience (double figures) the majority. It's all so 'naughty' isn't it?!

He or she who pays the piper calls the tune (not).
 
I think it's down to the training industry. My aromatherapy tutor told me she was trained to include glutes - but by the time she was training us, she was telling us to cover about half of the thighs with towels, never mind massaging the glutes!

I'm happy to massage anything clients ask for, but I don't touch the glutes unless a) they've asked for it (some do), or b) they've got a specific problem that I think it would help (and I'll ask them first if they are happy with it). It's a shame, but there you are. I'm sure I read in a previous thread on here about a woman who was taught not to massage men's legs above the knee!

Only yesterday I was telling someone how ridiculous it is that we don't normally do the glutes - seeing as they are a major group of muscles that connect two crucial parts of the body. But do clients expect it? Not generally, in my experience.
 
It's so sad people aren't being trained to do glutes any more. I'd be miffed if they weren't included in a FBM & most of my clients who have been having massage for a number of years wouldn't be too happy either.

Granted towel technique needs to be OK so you work in two stages & client doesn't get over exposed but if client or therapist is nervous you can work through towels - I was taught to use elbows!

As others have said it's an important area. Think it's a slippery slope for our profession if we're gradually declaring key areas of the body off limits.

Jx
 
friend of mine who is a massage therapist was trained not to touch inner thighs( sensitive part),myself wouldn't want to be massaged there! nor the bottom or tum,that's my personal preference (only been massaged once think will open other thread explaining this!!)but then I think rest ok not breasts!

of course I hope full body massage doesn't include the genitalia.

Amethsytfairy
 
Hello Amethystfairy
Interesting post,my answer is No full body massage doesn't include the genitalia
 
Indeed they are, and as long as you are happy to pay, it seems there is no shortage of people out there happy to massage them (so I'm told). But don't expect a good full body massage if you go for that option!
 
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    ๐—ง๐—›๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Fox, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ FOX is 26 years old with 34Cโ€™s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience.
  29. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธCindy & Jenny. Cindy is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curved with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  30. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sofia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  31. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ CHASIDY, LUCY, PAOLA, AMANDA, MAY, KIRAN, NISHA, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  32. Peony Garden Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ3 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY ๐ŸŒธ NANCY: A SMALL PETITE CURVY VIETNAMESE GIRL, NO TALLER THAN 5'2, VERY FRIENDLY, FUN AND OPEN MINDED ๐ŸŒธ SELINA: A TALL SLENDER ASIAN GIRL, 5'6 AND ABLE TO PROVIDE AN RMT LIKE MASSAGE ๐ŸŒธ ELLA: A PETITE YOUNG CHINESE GIRL THAT IS A POPULAR FAVOURITE ๐ŸŒธ PEONY GARDEN SPA ๐ŸŒธ 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 ๐ŸŒธ (416) 335-6093 ๐ŸŒธ
  33. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am,New First Day Young Slim Sexy Thai Girl Janice, Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  34. Sparkling Spa:
    50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT 8!! INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FOR A VARIETY OF APPETITES!!! MUI PICANTE STELLA IS HERE TODAY!!!โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
  35. bumika.vashi:
    VASHI NAVI MUMBAI FULL SERVICE :oops: TeleGram: @BUMIKAVASHI โ˜Ž๏ธ WhatsApp9๏ธโƒฃ9๏ธโƒฃ3๏ธโƒฃ0๏ธโƒฃ9๏ธโƒฃ1๏ธโƒฃ2๏ธโƒฃ6๏ธโƒฃ6๏ธโƒฃ9๏ธโƒฃ
  36. Sparkling Spa:
    0 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT 8!! INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FOR A VARIETY OF APPETITES!!! SEXY SASSY SERVICE QUEEN JENNIFER & KOREAN BLASIAN ALIYAH WAITING FOR YOU!!!โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
  37. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  38. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am,Tonight have New Young Thai Girl Janice after 7:30pm, Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  39. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, PAYAL PEARL, MONIKA, KIRAN, AMANDA, MALAY, NISHA, SANA, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  40. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on wednesday๏ผš New Polish gir sasa ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹angel- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility CiCi- Exotic beauty with great service and...
  41. SunriseRH:
    WEDNESDAY at SUNRISE SPA: LULU, MICHELLE & SUMMER. Also NEW Girl Lulu after 2pm. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-325-8086 โ˜Ž๏ธ LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5โ€™2โ€ & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered.
  42. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl maki
  43. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  44. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julie ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25 yesterday and young cute Ivy with curve body, fun GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage. Pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  47. NewOriental:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’šNEW ORIENTAL SPA๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY & VIVIAN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-381-2688 โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. VIVIAN is a pretty and very sexy Chinese doll, standing 5โ€™7โ€ tall, with a slim figure. Vivian is very friendly and versatile.
  48. Dreaminn:
    WEDNESDAY at๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: EVELYN, FIONA & VIVI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ EVELYN is๐Ÿ’ซA True Spinner!๐Ÿ’ซ with a beautiful face and tiny tiny body. A rare gem, 5โ€™1โ€ & only 95 pounds! She will rock your spinner loverโ€™s world with her gfe services. FIONA is a slim, very beautiful and accommodating Chinese lady, 5โ€™7โ€ & 120Lbs
  49. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  50. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mia๐Ÿ˜ beautiful young Singapore girl. Mia has a very sexy body, and beautiful busty boobs and golden blonde hair. She can give a very good teasing and relaxing massage with a sensual great playful HAPPY service. So very sexy beautiful gir
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