Tips have gotten out of control

Thread Title - TIPS HAD GOTTEN OUT OF CONTROL. OP is insinuating that us Hobbyists are paying more then we should and creating a situation. He even went as far as to say that if we all pay less then all MPA's going forward will expect less.

Has it? Are we Hobbyist getting cheap because of inflation?

There was an article re: Tipflation with regards to tipping at Restaurants. The machine now has a minimum of 15% (as opposed to 10% before). And there is even a button for 30%.

What do I think? I feel that we should always reward for GOOD service. Restaurants and of course Spas. If we as hobbyists feels that inflation had eroded our buying power, what about the MPA's? Do we expect them to work for less just because we want the same service now for less?

Numerous articles about how to deal with this. Mainly - eat out less if your Restaurant bills had gotten out of control. So, as hobbyists are we going to cut down our visits. @OG_funguy started a thread a while back asking "Has higher Costs affect our Hobbying habits" or something like that.
Restaurant one is interesting 15% on 30$ or 10% on 40$ equates to close to the same. So should Tip percent be decreasing If service is the same but base price is higher?
 
Thread Title - TIPS HAD GOTTEN OUT OF CONTROL. OP is insinuating that us Hobbyists are paying more then we should and creating a situation. He even went as far as to say that if we all pay less then all MPA's going forward will expect less.

Has it? Are we Hobbyist getting cheap because of inflation?

There was an article re: Tipflation with regards to tipping at Restaurants. The machine now has a minimum of 15% (as opposed to 10% before). And there is even a button for 30%.

What do I think? I feel that we should always reward for GOOD service. Restaurants and of course Spas. If we as hobbyists feels that inflation had eroded our buying power, what about the MPA's? Do we expect them to work for less just because we want the same service now for less?

Numerous articles about how to deal with this. Mainly - eat out less if your Restaurant bills had gotten out of control. So, as hobbyists are we going to cut down our visits. @OG_funguy started a thread a while back asking "Has higher Costs affect our Hobbying habits" or something like that.
Tipping in spas = not really tipping, itโ€™s payment ๐Ÿ’ฐ 4 services renderedโ€ฆ if I pay more than going rate, thatโ€™s a tip.

In a restaurant, tipping supplements incomeโ€ฆ in holistic spa, itโ€™s her ONLY income. :money
 
So I went to a spot in central Mississauga I normally donโ€™t frequent, but the lady spoke super good English and seemed friendly so thought I would give it a shot.

The massage was standard, nothing special as was the ending. Happy And standard but nothing to really thinK twice about.

As I donโ€™t hobby all that much anymore and the lady seemed super friendly I decided to tip 50$. At this point she looked at me in disgust and demanded I pay 70$. I put my 50$ back in my wallet and left without giving any tip.

Was she trying to push my generosity? This used to be 20$ tip before. And if not why do you guys keep paying this.
Wow....you walked out? Classy gent. Anyway women can charge whatever they want...its there bodies. The fee should be negotiated prior and if you don't want to pay just leave and go elsewhere. If its too expensive now then just go buy a sex doll or a mastabater. Lots of sex toys out there.
 
Wow....you walked out? Classy gent. Anyway women can charge whatever they want...its there bodies. The fee should be negotiated prior and if you don't want to pay just leave and go elsewhere. If its too expensive now then just go buy a sex doll or a mastabater. Lots of sex toys out there.

This post made me laugh. Itโ€™s a forum about rub and tugs I donโ€™t think any of this is โ€˜classyโ€™ nor any of us are gentlemen. Throwing the feminist lingo on top of that is just the proverbial cherry on top.

If fee is negotiated prior to any activity thatโ€™s great and up to her as the attendant to do. i agree much better for everyone to be clear on what costs are upfront.

If I could leave some advice though -
Perhaps spend a little less on them and more on yourself. Your grammar made my eyes bleed.
 
Tipping in spas = not really tipping, itโ€™s payment ๐Ÿ’ฐ 4 services renderedโ€ฆ if I pay more than going rate, thatโ€™s a tip.

In a restaurant, tipping supplements incomeโ€ฆ in holistic spa, itโ€™s her ONLY
Tipping in spas = not really tipping, itโ€™s payment ๐Ÿ’ฐ 4 services renderedโ€ฆ if I pay more than going rate, thatโ€™s a tip.

In a restaurant, tipping supplements incomeโ€ฆ in holistic spa, itโ€™s her ONLY income. :money
Tipping in spas = not really tipping, itโ€™s payment ๐Ÿ’ฐ 4 services renderedโ€ฆ if I pay more than going rate, thatโ€™s a tip.

In a restaurant, tipping supplements incomeโ€ฆ in holistic spa, itโ€™s her ONLY income. :money
You are like the Emily post of these places.

No joke should write a quick guide and sticky it on here for newbies.
 
Perhaps spend a little less on them and more on yourself.
But you didn't tip her anything.

Like you had $50, she asked for $70. You tripped out over $20 dollars.

I think you didn't want to pay or break a $50, so you where looking for an excuse to stiff her.
 
This post made me laugh. Itโ€™s a forum about rub and tugs I donโ€™t think any of this is โ€˜classyโ€™ nor any of us are gentlemen. Throwing the feminist lingo on top of that is just the proverbial cherry on top.

If fee is negotiated prior to any activity thatโ€™s great and up to her as the attendant to do. i agree much better for everyone to be clear on what costs are upfront.

If I could leave some advice though -
Perhaps spend a little less on them and more on yourself. Your grammar made my eyes bleed.
Re-read your Thread Title and what you wrote at the end and I quote

"Was she trying to push my generosity? This used to be 20$ tip before. And if not why do you guys keep paying this."
 
But you didn't tip her anything.

Like you had $50, she asked for $70. You tripped out over $20 dollars.

I think you didn't want to pay or break a $50, so you where looking for an excuse to stiff her.

Last time Iโ€™m saying this. It wasnโ€™t the amount asked it was the attitude with which it was demanded after an initial tip which most here have agreed was more then fair for services rendered.
 
Re-read your Thread Title and what you wrote at the end and I quote

"Was she trying to push my generosity? This used to be 20$ tip before. And if not why do you guys keep paying this."
You are correct I should have phrased that better. I was more asking if 70$ is the new normal for what she did. Doesnโ€™t sound like it is. However, if guys hold the line on tips mkt should correct. And donโ€™t let them play the poor card working 5 days a week with 5-6 visits a day assuming they get 0 from room fees And roughly 50$/visit in tips they are making 78-85k in CASH which is more then what the average household brings in.
 
This post made me laugh. Itโ€™s a forum about rub and tugs I donโ€™t think any of this is โ€˜classyโ€™ nor any of us are gentlemen. Throwing the feminist lingo on top of that is just the proverbial cherry on top.

If fee is negotiated prior to any activity thatโ€™s great and up to her as the attendant to do. i agree much better for everyone to be clear on what costs are upfront.

If I could leave some advice though -
Perhaps spend a little less on them and more on yourself. Your grammar made my eyes bleed.
Thats the best you can throw at me??? Grammer? LMAO. So you think poor men or men who don't hold any class whats so ever only go these places? LMAO. Hey man your an idiot that walked out and did not pay. GO BE A MAN AND GO BACK AND PAY THE LADY. You sound like a kid who walked out and did not pay at a restaurant because the food was too cold. Clown
 
Thats the best you can throw at me??? Grammer? LMAO. So you think poor men or men who don't hold any class whats so ever only go these places? LMAO. Hey man your an idiot that walked out and did not pay. GO BE A MAN AND GO BACK AND PAY THE LADY. You sound like a kid who walked out and did not pay at a restaurant because the food was too cold. Clown

Nah that was just the easiest one. Iโ€™m sure there are plenty more. You used the right too but still donโ€™t seem to know what an apostrophe is. Too much time with a guy sitting on your face in your playfighting classes ruin your brain cells?

And yes talking about class on here is rather funny. You then top this humor by insinuating that being a man has something to do with going to massage parlors and paying them whatever they ask. That is again rather humorous as the majority of guys going in here either canโ€™t hold a relationship or are using this as a relief valve from their old ladyโ€™s which is the antithesis of what being a man is normally portrayed as being.

Finally - to correct your metaphor itโ€™s like going to a restaurant, leaving a 30% tip when the expected is 15% and the waiter throwing a hissy fit that you didnโ€™t tip 55%.

If there are guys that have any class going to these places your responses tell me that you arenโ€™t one of them. Either that or you are a troll if itโ€™s the latter I tip my hat to you.
 
Thats the best you can throw at me??? Grammer? LMAO. So you think poor men or men who don't hold any class whats so ever only go these places? LMAO. Hey man your an idiot that walked out and did not pay. GO BE A MAN AND GO BACK AND PAY THE LADY. You sound like a kid who walked out and did not pay at a restaurant because the food was too cold. Clown
At most restaurants I think you can ask them to heat up the food more if it's not tongue searing hot
 
You are correct I should have phrased that better. I was more asking if 70$ is the new normal for what she did. Doesnโ€™t sound like it is. However, if guys hold the line on tips mkt should correct. And donโ€™t let them play the poor card working 5 days a week with 5-6 visits a day assuming they get 0 from room fees And roughly 50$/visit in tips they are making 78-85k in CASH which is more then what the average household brings in.
MPA making 78-85K in CASH - is that our concern? Why is that even a factor what they earned. They do things that a lot of ladies would not do. Some will work as cashier in a Supermarket for $15/hr. Some will work in Timmies for minimum wage in the morning shift. It is a choice they make.

They sacrifice their dignity to SERVICE US. Why? you said they play the poor card. Are you sure? Did you talk to any of them. Some of them are abandoned Single Moms with young children to bring up. Yes, some want to have a short cut to have luxuries in their life and willing to do what they are doing to make good COIN. Is that any much different that a Salesman selling their soul to make a sale, or those who are in a job that they hate but the MONEY is too good to pass up.

Please do not pass judgement on those of us willing to PAY MORE. It is our choice. Just like passing judgement of these ladies who do things that others might not do to make us HAPPY.

I am not passing judgement on you. All I can say is that if these ladies are making 75K a year and it bothers you that much then do not support them. DO NOT USE THEIR SERVICES.

RANT OVER
 
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    Lily Spa :๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Monday Schedule : ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณKatrina 22, Punjabi student โค๏ธElena ( Latino ) Big Nature Boobs & SuSu ( Asian )Slim , all bbbj Dfk ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  30. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: ๐ŸŒนSuperstar Julie, Sexy Bonnie and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  31. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Pretty Girl Cici, Young RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌCICI or Helen๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  32. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Latino ๐Ÿ’– Malaysian ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  33. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธSami๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธSummer๐ŸŒธTiffany Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  34. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธCarly๐ŸŒธKellyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  35. Spa in Markham:
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  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  41. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 New Add bookmark #199 We had three girls working today, Kiki Sarah and Vivi. 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga
  42. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : LUCKY (12:30pm-9pm): is Vietnamese, small body, busty D cup, very beautiful face, Young/Cute/Petite/Pure/Submissive, Fair Skin/Perky Ass/Sweet, Super Open-Minded bbbj cim cof rim, excellent service, also strong massage. SUGAR (10am-9pm): is young,petite, 5'1"
  43. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services...
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, FIONA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services.
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and young sweet Mia 25โ€™s, young sexy Michelle 25โ€™s with curve body open mind and Cute GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, ELLA, MIA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE
  48. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒนโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ Wonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)L6a 4H8,๐Ÿ”ฅ4165000-800,Ensuit rain shower now is available ,every day 4 nice girls working,๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,everything she can do,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is very beautiful face long leg friendly ,nice body slide,really popular must try๐ŸŒนlong hair Mina Q smile ,beautiful strong to relaxing oil massage,back walk,hot stone,more experience,relief your stress,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  49. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl โ—๏ธCindy, sexy girl 1.65 M.pretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ Sweet girl Luna deep message ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  50. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Mia Vietnamese Sasa friendly Vietnamese girl Natalie filipina mixed Petite girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School gir โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
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