Trump: Whiny Loser or Mad Genius?

Trump: Whiny Loser or Mad Genius?

  • Whiny Loser

    Votes: 29 70.7%
  • Mad Genius

    Votes: 12 29.3%

  • Total voters
    41
  • Poll closed .
Here's how it was done. With or without Trump, an insurrection is inevitable.
 
I'm super curious to know what the commonly agreed rules were about what could not be said.


Who was banned from Twitter for this? I'm not saying it didn't happen... I'm just unaware... could you please post a link to some info about that?


But wouldn't it have to be regulated regardless? You began your post by saying everyone previously agreed that certain types of speech should not be permitted.


Why only violence and nothing else? Not hatred? Should it be totally "free speech" say to post on Facebook or Twitter the way "Back in Toronto" posts?

Would it be "free speech" for someone to post your full real name, address, family photos etc on this website, or those of a sex worker, since there's no violence involved?

What about Tweeting false information to manipulate a stock price?

What about false information that arguably harms the public good, e.g. telling people vaccinating children will give them autism, or telling people that the vaccinations we need to end this endless pandemic are actually a way of Bill Gates putting microchips into your arms, etc. etc.

Really it seems like there are a lot of different potential reasons why certain types of speech arguably should be regulated on mass communication platforms.

I'll try to answer each of your questions, but I think you may be reading something into my statements that is not there. I do believe that except for advocating violence, all speech should be free. But I am not saying that speech should be free of consequences. The questions you asked seem to imply that's my position, but it's not.

I'm super curious to know what the commonly agreed rules were about what could not be said. But wouldn't it have to be regulated regardless? You began your post by saying everyone previously agreed that certain types of speech should not be permitted..
Commonly agreed rules about what could not be said are those I already mentioned above. Rules such as those against shouting fire in a crowded theater or clear calls for violence. Today we have played games with language to call almost anything violence and then censor or take more drastic action.

Would it be "free speech" for someone to post your full real name, address, family photos etc on this website, or those of a sex worker, since there's no violence involved? What about Tweeting false information to manipulate a stock price?
Doxing is already legal. The case against it today is based on morality, respecting someone's privacy and fear of retribution. Stock prices are a different case. You can go ahead and spread false information about stock prices, but if the SEC finds you doing so to profit from it unfairly, there are specific penalties. Similarly, I'm free to defame you, but if I cannot prove what I say, you can sue me for slander or libel.
Who was banned from Twitter for this? I'm not saying it didn't happen... I'm just unaware... could you please post a link to some info about that?
Megan Murphy, Canadian feminist, received a life time ban from Twitter for simply saying a transgender person was not a woman. She's one of the most high profile cases, but there have been many others. Calls for the same to be done to J.K. Rowling have been made.

But Twitter has done far worse than that. Look up the case of Bret Weinstein, whose Twitter and Facebook accounts were suspended or stifled before the election (and still are), simply for proposing something he called Articles of Unity, a framework for opposing political sides to work together. There are many examples of such action by Twitter and Facebook, but the media doesn't give them a lot of attention because they are overwhelmingly taken against conservative views...Weinstein isn't even a conservative but he was proposing something that was thought to potentially harm Biden's chances. That was apparently enough to get silenced.

Why only violence and nothing else? Not hatred? Should it be totally "free speech" say to post on Facebook or Twitter the way "Back in Toronto" posts?
What about false information that arguably harms the public good, e.g. telling people vaccinating children will give them autism, or telling people that the vaccinations we need to end this endless pandemic are actually a way of Bill Gates putting microchips into your arms, etc. etc.

There should be no "hate" laws. All speech should be allowed save for that advocating violence, as I said above. Yes, you should be able to say you hate jews and blacks etc....even "BiT's posts...yes, they should be allowed. Free speech counts for nothing if it applies only to speech you like. You have to allow distasteful and ugly thoughts to be shared, to be aired, in order for them to be properly examined, discussed and hopefully discarded. Same goes for misinformation that could lead to harm. You should be liable for what you say and that liability could increase depending on the context. If neighbour Joe tells you not to vaccinate your kids because aliens will abduct them he will be less liable for damages than if your doctor tells you the same thing. It is up to you to judge what you hear and read and to consider the source.

One of the earliest and I think the best, explanations of this is John Stuart Mills' chapter 2 on free expression in On Liberty. If you've never read it, or perhaps did in school a long time ago and forgot, you should give it a quick read. He lays out the principles and importance of free speech there in a wonderfully clear and persuasive way.

Let me just give you an example from my own beliefs. I hate certain religious teachings. I think they're evil and I should be able to say so without being accused of transgressing a law. Judaism's circumcision, Islam's teaching that a woman's testimony is worth less than a man's, Catholicism's doctrine of original sin....I hate them all. Note that plenty of people have gotten into hot water for doing exactly this, criticizing religious belief, which our courts have deemed tantamount to inciting hatred against an identifiable group. In all likelihood I would not be charged for saying publicly what I have said here, but I would probably be deemed to have technically broken the law as it's written--and if I held a position with the government, I'd be at great risk of losing it. Sections such as these landed Ezra Levant (not someone I'm a fan of), in front of Alberta's Human Rights Tribunal when he reprinted the Danish cartoons.

Section 319(1): Publicly inciting hatred[edit]
Section 319(1) makes it an offence to communicate statements in a public place which incite hatred against an identifiable group, where it is likely to lead to a breach of the peace. The Crown prosecutor can proceed either by indictment or by summary process. The maximum penalty is imprisonment of not more than two years. There is no minimum punishment.[15]

Section 319(2): Promoting hatred[edit]
Section 319(2) makes it an offence to willfully promote hatred against any identifiable group, by making statements (other than in private conversation). The Crown prosecutor can proceed either by indictment or by summary process. The maximum penalty is imprisonment of not more than two years.[15]


Sorry for the length of the response, but as you can probably tell, it's a subject I'm warm to and which seems to be touching daily lives more and more. In short, I think that the actions which should be available to us to fight abhorrent speech should those of social pressure and specific damage laws.
 
I'll try to answer each of your questions, but I think you may be reading something into my statements that is not there. I do believe that except for advocating violence, all speech should be free. But I am not saying that speech should be free of consequences. The questions you asked seem to imply that's my position, but it's not.

I'm super curious to know what the commonly agreed rules were about what could not be said. But wouldn't it have to be regulated regardless? You began your post by saying everyone previously agreed that certain types of speech should not be permitted..
Commonly agreed rules about what could not be said are those I already mentioned above. Rules such as those against shouting fire in a crowded theater or clear calls for violence. Today we have played games with language to call almost anything violence and then censor or take more drastic action.

Would it be "free speech" for someone to post your full real name, address, family photos etc on this website, or those of a sex worker, since there's no violence involved? What about Tweeting false information to manipulate a stock price?
Doxing is already legal. The case against it today is based on morality, respecting someone's privacy and fear of retribution. Stock prices are a different case. You can go ahead and spread false information about stock prices, but if the SEC finds you doing so to profit from it unfairly, there are specific penalties. Similarly, I'm free to defame you, but if I cannot prove what I say, you can sue me for slander or libel.
Who was banned from Twitter for this? I'm not saying it didn't happen... I'm just unaware... could you please post a link to some info about that?
Megan Murphy, Canadian feminist, received a life time ban from Twitter for simply saying a transgender person was not a woman. She's one of the most high profile cases, but there have been many others. Calls for the same to be done to J.K. Rowling have been made.

But Twitter has done far worse than that. Look up the case of Bret Weinstein, whose Twitter and Facebook accounts were suspended or stifled before the election (and still are), simply for proposing something he called Articles of Unity, a framework for opposing political sides to work together. There are many examples of such action by Twitter and Facebook, but the media doesn't give them a lot of attention because they are overwhelmingly taken against conservative views...Weinstein isn't even a conservative but he was proposing something that was thought to potentially harm Biden's chances. That was apparently enough to get silenced.

Why only violence and nothing else? Not hatred? Should it be totally "free speech" say to post on Facebook or Twitter the way "Back in Toronto" posts?
What about false information that arguably harms the public good, e.g. telling people vaccinating children will give them autism, or telling people that the vaccinations we need to end this endless pandemic are actually a way of Bill Gates putting microchips into your arms, etc. etc.

There should be no "hate" laws. All speech should be allowed save for that advocating violence, as I said above. Yes, you should be able to say you hate jews and blacks etc....even "BiT's posts...yes, they should be allowed. Free speech counts for nothing if it applies only to speech you like. You have to allow distasteful and ugly thoughts to be shared, to be aired, in order for them to be properly examined, discussed and hopefully discarded. Same goes for misinformation that could lead to harm. You should be liable for what you say and that liability could increase depending on the context. If neighbour Joe tells you not to vaccinate your kids because aliens will abduct them he will be less liable for damages than if your doctor tells you the same thing. It is up to you to judge what you hear and read and to consider the source.

One of the earliest and I think the best, explanations of this is John Stuart Mills' chapter 2 on free expression in On Liberty. If you've never read it, or perhaps did in school a long time ago and forgot, you should give it a quick read. He lays out the principles and importance of free speech there in a wonderfully clear and persuasive way.

Let me just give you an example from my own beliefs. I hate certain religious teachings. I think they're evil and I should be able to say so without being accused of transgressing a law. Judaism's circumcision, Islam's teaching that a woman's testimony is worth less than a man's, Catholicism's doctrine of original sin....I hate them all. Note that plenty of people have gotten into hot water for doing exactly this, criticizing religious belief, which our courts have deemed tantamount to inciting hatred against an identifiable group. In all likelihood I would not be charged for saying publicly what I have said here, but I would probably be deemed to have technically broken the law as it's written--and if I held a position with the government, I'd be at great risk of losing it. Sections such as these landed Ezra Levant (not someone I'm a fan of), in front of Alberta's Human Rights Tribunal when he reprinted the Danish cartoons.

Section 319(1): Publicly inciting hatred[edit]
Section 319(1) makes it an offence to communicate statements in a public place which incite hatred against an identifiable group, where it is likely to lead to a breach of the peace. The Crown prosecutor can proceed either by indictment or by summary process. The maximum penalty is imprisonment of not more than two years. There is no minimum punishment.[15]

Section 319(2): Promoting hatred[edit]
Section 319(2) makes it an offence to willfully promote hatred against any identifiable group, by making statements (other than in private conversation). The Crown prosecutor can proceed either by indictment or by summary process. The maximum penalty is imprisonment of not more than two years.[15]


Sorry for the length of the response, but as you can probably tell, it's a subject I'm warm to and which seems to be touching daily lives more and more. In short, I think that the actions which should be available to us to fight abhorrent speech should those of social pressure and specific damage laws.

Thanks for your thoughtful response. I read your link about Megan Murphy, who I see was banned for violating Twitter's policy on hate speech.

I donโ€™t believe Iโ€™m misinterpreting what you are arguing for: you are advocating that with the sole exception of the explicit incitement of violence, all other forms of expression on privately owned websites should be permitted, no matter how offensive or harmful they are. Respectfully, I completely disagree. The world is much more complicated than that.

The purpose of politics is to sort out these types of disagreements, so if you continue to advocate for the types of changes you would like to see in the world perhaps in time they will come to pass.

But currently in pretty much all of the modern world so far the process of politics has settled this issue against your viewpoint, which many would consider extreme, and privately owned platforms have the right to moderate their forums as they deem appropriate for the greater good.

If admin couldnโ€™t moderate this site except for explicit calls to violence then doxxing would be permitted. For myself the harm caused, even in the absence of violence, is massive and obvious, and I am incredibly grateful that this site, in addition to tech giants like Twitter and Facebook, have the legal right to moderate their sites in this way, in addition to the other ways that Iโ€™ve mentioned.

Personally I believe the error conservatives make is claiming their right of expression has been completely stifled and suppressed everywhere. That is quite obviously not the case. There are still myriad other avenues, forums and public spheres where people can still continue to make their views known, this website being one of the countless examples demonstrating that is true: they simply donโ€™t have the right to do so everywhere in any way they choose in every circumstance.
 
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Blm Antifa. Social and political justice demos
Trumps demo. Sedition, a coup of an democratic elected government by trump
No difference right ?
Dude! You missed the part when Biden and the democRats blatantly cheated. It was not a fair election. That's why people are upset. Now carry on living in your dreamworld!
 
Thanks for your thoughtful response. I read your link about Megan Murphy, who I see was banned for violating Twitter's policy on hate speech.

I donโ€™t believe Iโ€™m misinterpreting what you are arguing for: you are advocating that with the sole exception of the explicit incitement of violence, all other forms of expression on privately owned websites should be permitted, no matter how offensive or harmful they are. Respectfully, I completely disagree. The world is much more complicated than that.

The purpose of politics is to sort out these types of disagreements, so if you continue to advocate for the types of changes you would like to see in the world perhaps in time they will come to pass.

But currently in pretty much all of the modern world so far the process of politics has settled this issue against your viewpoint, which many would consider extreme, and privately owned platforms have the right to moderate their forums as they deem appropriate for the greater good.

If admin couldnโ€™t moderate this site except for explicit calls to violence then doxxing would be permitted. For myself the harm caused, even in the absence of violence, is massive and obvious, and I am incredibly grateful that this site, in addition to tech giants like Twitter and Facebook, have the legal right to moderate their sites in this way, in addition to the other ways that Iโ€™ve mentioned.

Personally I believe the error conservatives make is claiming their right of expression has been completely stifled and suppressed everywhere. That is quite obviously not the case. There are still myriad other avenues, forums and public spheres where people can still continue to make their views known, this website being one of the countless examples demonstrating that is true: they simply donโ€™t have the right to do so everywhere in any way they choose in every circumstance.
I'm not sure we completely understand each other. I agree with you that speech can be moderated on private forums. I guess I failed to make myself clear on that point. What I am against is making any form of speech, other than calls for violence, illegal. Of course private companies have every right to moderate the speech that happens on their "dime".

This goes for big tech too. Twitter has every right to ban speech it doesn't agree with. My point is that it is not doing so in a wise way. You can say Murphy was banned for violating Twitter rules, which is true, but the devil is in the details. She was banned for saying men are not women...a belief held by the vast majority of humanity. Moreover, the ban by Twitter contended that her speech made Transgender people "unsafe" and transgressed Twitter's hate rules. Meanwhile, calls for jews to be "pushed into the sea" are tolerated. This is precisely what I was getting at in my lengthy post above.
 
Winning and losing is life, man. Stand up and stop crying like a baby. Biden lost before too. Ever see him whining? What happened when Hasek lost the Stanley Cup in 99? Did he sulk? No, he won later with the Wings, while teammates with Hull, no less. When you fall, you get up and try again. You don't cry like Drunk Trump.
 
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I'm not sure we completely understand each other. I agree with you that speech can be moderated on private forums. I guess I failed to make myself clear on that point. What I am against is making any form of speech, other than calls for violence, illegal. Of course private companies have every right to moderate the speech that happens on their "dime".

This goes for big tech too. Twitter has every right to ban speech it doesn't agree with. My point is that it is not doing so in a wise way. You can say Murphy was banned for violating Twitter rules, which is true, but the devil is in the details. She was banned for saying men are not women...a belief held by the vast majority of humanity. Moreover, the ban by Twitter contended that her speech made Transgender people "unsafe" and transgressed Twitter's hate rules. Meanwhile, calls for jews to be "pushed into the sea" are tolerated. This is precisely what I was getting at in my lengthy post above.

Ahh OK well then yes my apologies I was mistaken - I did misunderstand you. We're on the same page then: Twitter and the rest can ban whoever they wish and regulate speech however they choose.

I have empathy for Murphy's position so I'm not trying to make a case as to whether it's right or wrong of Twitter to ban her. But we both agree it's their absolute right to do so, and Murphy needs to either abide by their rules or find somewhere else to make her case. So really the only question regarding Twitter is whether banning someone is a wise choice or a foolish choice from a business perspective, or whatever other criteria you wish to measure by.

If the more foundational question is what free speech is permitted in society in general and not on internet platforms, then personally I feel we're still in pretty good shape here since there are plenty of other places we can freely discuss all these issues and more, like Massage Planet!
 
How did Biden cheat? There's no hard evidence that anyone has produced so far.
Cant reach people who refuse to believe facts and are addicted to fake news and their own narrative. I find it hilarious that Trump and his mob keep crying foul and its them who are trying their hardest to steal the election. They keep saying Stop the Steal. Well, that's easy. Get your ass off the street and accept Trump's loss and let him go off into the sunset with his tail between his legs.
 
Cant reach people who refuse to believe facts and are addicted to fake news and their own narrative. I find it hilarious that Trump and his mob keep crying foul and its them who are trying their hardest to steal the election. They keep saying Stop the Steal. Well, that's easy. Get your ass off the street and accept Trump's loss and let him go off into the sunset with his tail between his legs.
Agreed. If only Dump Trump would accept defeat, he wouldn't be in big trouble as he is now. By getting impeached, he will lose his pension and will no longer receive secret service security.
 
Dude! You missed the part when Biden and the democRats blatantly cheated. It was not a fair election. That's why people are upset. Now carry on living in your dreamworld!

They blatantly cheated the same way Jesus regularly appears to people in their coffee.
 
Ahh OK well then yes my apologies I was mistaken - I did misunderstand you. We're on the same page then: Twitter and the rest can ban whoever they wish and regulate speech however they choose.

I have empathy for Murphy's position so I'm not trying to make a case as to whether it's right or wrong of Twitter to ban her. But we both agree it's their absolute right to do so, and Murphy needs to either abide by their rules or find somewhere else to make her case. So really the only question regarding Twitter is whether banning someone is a wise choice or a foolish choice from a business perspective, or whatever other criteria you wish to measure by.

If the more foundational question is what free speech is permitted in society in general and not on internet platforms, then personally I feel we're still in pretty good shape here since there are plenty of other places we can freely discuss all these issues and more, like Massage Planet!

Yes, I think we agree on principles, but maybe not conclusions.

Someone like say Alex Jones, has effectively been silenced. Much as I hate the stuff he's said, I think it's wrong for that to happen. Also the more recent case of the attempt to get rid of Parler does not bode well. Collectively, Twitter, Apple, Google and Facebook basically control dialogue online. Factor in that mainstream media is on the same side as big tech and you have a situation (in the U.S. at least) where half the population is frozen out of discussion and the other half is fully backed by the establishment. Not a good recipe for unity ,or peace, for that matter. Since the Capitol riot, I have heard numerous statements in the media and on Twitter basically saying that ALL Trump supporters bear some degree of guilt for January 6. That's not only wrong, it is inconsistent, since the same people would never assess their side by the same rules--and yet you have a seeming consensus in legacy and social media. The best we can hope for in such a situation is that conservatives will create their own "bubbles" and then the two sides won't talk at all. At worst, the conflict will go beyond words.
 
There are more than two sides and anyway, liberals and leftists are not on the same side.
 
Yes, I think we agree on principles, but maybe not conclusions.

Someone like say Alex Jones, has effectively been silenced. Much as I hate the stuff he's said, I think it's wrong for that to happen. Also the more recent case of the attempt to get rid of Parler does not bode well. Collectively, Twitter, Apple, Google and Facebook basically control dialogue online. Factor in that mainstream media is on the same side as big tech and you have a situation (in the U.S. at least) where half the population is frozen out of discussion and the other half is fully backed by the establishment. Not a good recipe for unity ,or peace, for that matter. Since the Capitol riot, I have heard numerous statements in the media and on Twitter basically saying that ALL Trump supporters bear some degree of guilt for January 6. That's not only wrong, it is inconsistent, since the same people would never assess their side by the same rules--and yet you have a seeming consensus in legacy and social media. The best we can hope for in such a situation is that conservatives will create their own "bubbles" and then the two sides won't talk at all. At worst, the conflict will go beyond words.

You donโ€™t like the conclusions, but to some degree they are the logical result of your own belief system. You canโ€™t have your cake and eat it too.

The commitment to the maximum level of freedom and the Randian / Libertarian / conservative belief that business should be subject to the absolute minimum level of regulation possible is ironically how you end up with behemoth tech monopolies having outsize control over speech in the public sphere in the first place.

You previously stressed that freedom to say what you believe does not mean freedom from consequence from what you say. Since we both agree that in a free society private entities have the absolute right to run their businesses as they choose, that means that when the underpinning of the entire system is threatened by people who want to deny the results of free and fair elections, private entities have the right to respond in the ways that protect what they perceive as the interests of their own businesses as well as their country as a whole.

Denying the obvious outcome of elections in a democratic society is not really good for unity and peace either. If your goal is that anyone can say what they want, short of inciting violence, and presumably companies can hire and fire who they want, doesnโ€™t it follow that businesses have the absolute right to decide, for example, that the following is what they want to say and how they choose to run their business?

The talk radio network that airs Dan Bongino and Mark Levin warned staff to stop โ€˜dog-whistle talk.โ€™

If conservatives want to be the party of personal responsibility and law and order then they need to be responsible, accept the consequences for what they say and do, and follow the existing laws of the land.

What remedy do you propose to solve the problem youโ€™re complaining about?
 
What remedy do you propose to solve the problem youโ€™re complaining about?

It's complicated isn't it? I agree that I am hoist by my own petard on this subject. The very principles of freedom of speech (in the context of the U.S. and its first amendment) and private enterprise which I'm defending have inevitably led to this situation. I don't think our freedom of speech laws (not that I think we have freedom of speech in Canada), envisioned a world where so few companies could control so much public discourse.

What I'd like to see is for big tech to receive some assurance from government that they will not be regulated. If those few big companies did not have to worry about Washington forcing them to moderate discussions to "protect" people against hate speech, misinformation, and sometimes just offense, then I think they'd simply pass themselves off as utilities with no more responsibility about what gets said on their platform than Bell has about what people say over their phone lines. I think that might work, because of the simple rule of competition.

However, the opposite is happening. Now that they are in complete control of the government, there's nothing stopping Democrats from carrying out the threats they've been making for years, to regulate social media. And if they do, it's going to make the problem worse. In that case the best we can hope for (from my perspective), is that the Democrats will overreach-and piss off enough people to lose control of the government. No one's motives are pure. Both sides realize that whoever controls the rules of communication can also affect elections, and because culturally speaking Democrat America is dominant, they certainly have the edge. Luckily they are terrifically incompetent.
 
It's complicated isn't it? I agree that I am hoist by my own petard on this subject. The very principles of freedom of speech (in the context of the U.S. and its first amendment) and private enterprise which I'm defending have inevitably led to this situation. I don't think our freedom of speech laws (not that I think we have freedom of speech in Canada), envisioned a world where so few companies could control so much public discourse.

What I'd like to see is for big tech to receive some assurance from government that they will not be regulated. If those few big companies did not have to worry about Washington forcing them to moderate discussions to "protect" people against hate speech, misinformation, and sometimes just offense, then I think they'd simply pass themselves off as utilities with no more responsibility about what gets said on their platform than Bell has about what people say over their phone lines. I think that might work, because of the simple rule of competition.

However, the opposite is happening. Now that they are in complete control of the government, there's nothing stopping Democrats from carrying out the threats they've been making for years, to regulate social media. And if they do, it's going to make the problem worse. In that case the best we can hope for (from my perspective), is that the Democrats will overreach-and piss off enough people to lose control of the government. No one's motives are pure. Both sides realize that whoever controls the rules of communication can also affect elections, and because culturally speaking Democrat America is dominant, they certainly have the edge. Luckily they are terrifically incompetent.

Hopefully it will be some consolation to know Twitter is not happy about this state of affairs either, and CEO Jack Dorsey โ€“ whose philosophical outlook on the matter is similar to your own โ€“ feels he was railroaded into a place he never wanted to go to by Trump...

Twitter banned Trump forever... And it brought to an end an era of free speech online that Twitter โ€” which a senior executive once referred to as โ€œthe free speech wing of the free speech partyโ€ โ€” had itself helped create.... Billionaire Twitter CEO and founder Jack Dorsey wasnโ€™t celebrating the moment. He lamented what the decision meant for the vision of an open Internet that he and his Silicon Valley peers shared when they sought to build a new type of microblogging service 15 years ago. While necessary for public safety, he said it would be โ€œdestructive to the noble purpose and ideals of the open Internetโ€ over the long term...

Until recently, the company was so reluctant to police content that it only put into place a formal misinformation policy last year.... Public figures were so important to Twitter that, like Facebook, the company long gave them a newsworthiness exemption. They were allowed to say things that would be considered to be policy violations if uttered by everyday users, on the grounds that what these people said was in the public interest. Twitter, and Dorsey in particular, long maintained that even the worst lies should be corrected with more speech rather than removing them. It was Twitterโ€™s responsibility to show โ€œhow global leaders think and treat the people around them,โ€ he said. But Twitter came under more and more pressure as the Trump presidency wore on....

For years, he and Twitter had benefited immensely from being at the center of conversations, the public square where news happened. Now, a dangerous precedent was set, he said, in that people were retreating from the public square even further. Dialogues across different viewpoints would be even less possible, and technology companies were becoming even more powerful than governments. That the company had to ban Trump, he felt, was a failure of his service to maintain civil discourse, perhaps existentially.


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In a lengthy philosophical tweetstorm, Twitter chief executive Jack Dorsey said he took no pride in the decision to remove President Trumpโ€™s account from the service last week, describing the decision as a โ€œfailureโ€ to ultimately create a service that could sustain civil discourse and healthy conversations... โ€œThis moment in time might call for this dynamic, but over the long term it will be destructive to the noble purpose and ideals of the open internet,โ€ he wrote....

Dorsey, along with Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg, is a strong proponent of building platforms that can encompass as many voices as possible. That latitude and pro-free speech stance was extended even further with politicians. Twitter โ€” like Facebook โ€” has long given exemptions to public figures regarding their hate speech policies on the grounds that what they said was newsworthy and worthy of public debate. The decisions last week, to effectively silence those voices, Dorsey pointed out, would have huge ramifications.

โ€œThey limit the potential for clarification, redemption, and learning,โ€ he wrote. โ€œAnd sets a precedent I feel is dangerous: the power an individual or corporation has over a part of the global public conversation.โ€

 
Free Speech is never 100% โ€œFreeโ€. Statements that are dangerous and false are not protected. The example given is yelling โ€œfireโ€ in a crowded theatre is not protected by the First Amendment.

The internet should never be completely open. By that, some things should not be allowed to be shown or discussed, namely things like child pornography or ISIS beheading captured westerners. The difficulty will be determining where to set the dial on the level of freedom or control.
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Vicky๐ŸฅฐA new arrival at our branch ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ‘ฏโ€โ™€๏ธVicky is a very young CBC part time student working for tuition fees and books, this bright young sexy girl is willing to showcase her eagerness to please AND be pleased. Busty 34C boobs on a peti
  3. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely Jessica and coco Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  4. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Young Curvy Sexy Latina Karen, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  5. tick:
    best massage attendant
  6. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ AAVI, SARIKA, PAYAL PEARL, NINA, MALIYA, NISHA, NIMRAT, MONIKA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  7. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-06Today we have 5 girls on Saturday๏ผš Jennifer - CBC girl with large breasts and a nice booty to compliment her fun services Vicky - cute spinner with a slim frame and services Sandy -... ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹new girl Linda๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  8. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Foxy -๐Ÿ”ฅYour new addiction at Sparkling Spa! A tall 5โ€™7โ€ sexy Korean girl with a wild ro
  9. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Young Curvy Sexy Latina Karen, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  10. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan just ar
  11. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Monica ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Wendy ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  12. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lucky, Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Linda ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  13. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Ivy โค๏ธ is new girl in our branch, shy and sweet but also very vocal and needy, she demands your happiness and satisfaction. Slim body, supple soft breasts with long nipples and a toned bum bum will have you intoxicated by Ivyโ€™s good looks
  14. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ SANA, NINA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  15. KSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: CICI, HELEN, YOYO & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ CICI is a slim 110 Lbs & pretty 23 years โ€œMust Tryโ€ honey, with all menus available. HELEN stands 5โ€™3โ€ & weighs 110 Lbs, with nice 34D pillows to comfort you. YOYO is JAPANESE, 21 Yrs, 5โ€™2โ€ & 115 Lbs, with a nice big ass & great service.
  16. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at Sugar Love Spa: Eva, Lily, Sunny & Tiffany. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž 437-365-2688 โ˜Ž EVA is a NEW beautiful White/Asian mix girl, 5โ€™1โ€, 36C, very friendly, sexy and interesting. LILY is NEW TODAY. SUNNY is NEW TODAY. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little booty
  17. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ AAVI, SARIKA, PAYAL PEARL, NINA, MALIYA, NISHA, NIMRAT, MONIKA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  18. Dreaminn:
    SATURDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: AMY, ELSA, EVA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ AMY is a sweet and friendly Chinese vixen, 158Cms, 115Lbs, with C Cups, very excitable and fun. ELSA is slim, petite & very pretty student, early 20โ€™s about 5โ€™2โ€ and 105 Lbs. Elsa has an innocent look about her, but she can drive you wild with pleasure
  19. Birchmount&14th:
    SATURDAY at ๐๐ˆ๐‘๐‚๐‡๐Œ๐Ž๐”๐๐“ & ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’๐ญ๐ก: JESSIE & *SK๐—ฌ๐—Ÿ๐—”๐—ฅ* Birchmount Rd & 14th Ave., Markham, ON. Call or Text for details and appointment. โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฐ โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐—๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ๐—œ๐—˜ is a slim and very sexy Asian girl with skills of the highest degree. *๐—ฆ๐—ž๐—ฌ๐—Ÿ๐—”๐—ฅ* has returned on Saturdays! She is a superstar & very well known for her skills.๐Ÿ˜ƒ We are open 24 Hours daily. We have clean rooms & free parking
  20. SunriseRH:
    SATURDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: SUMMER & TIANA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€ with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services. TIANA is a sexy Jamaican girl, 5โ€™6โ€ & 120Lbs, possessing 36DD-28-39 assets to drive you crazy.
  21. NewOriental:
    SATURDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY, LULU & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  22. ASPA:
    SATUR๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Jenny and best massage Rachel. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36Cโ€™s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  23. Peony Garden Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ3 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY ๐ŸŒธ NEW GIRL ASHIA: A VERY YOUNG AND SLIM INDIAN GIRL, EARLY 20'S, 5'2 IN HEIGHT, LIGHT CARAMEL SKIN AND CAN SPEAK PUNJABI, HINDI AND ENGLISH FLUENTLY ๐ŸŒธ MOON: A YOUNG SLIM VIETNAMESE STUDENT W/ A HELL OF A BODY AND VERY OPEN ๐ŸŒธ JENNY: A SLIM AND TALL KOREAN GIRL THAT IS A TOTAL SERVICE QUEEN ๐ŸŒธ PEONY GARDEN SPA ๐ŸŒธ 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 ๐ŸŒธ (416) 335-6093 ๐ŸŒธ
  24. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ table shower body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely big boobs Tiffany ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œand Angela Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  25. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Yoyo 30 years old open mind with 36DD and young sweet student Sophia, pretty Ella and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  26. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONIKA,MALIYA, ASHA, NINA, PAOLA, ANGEL, AAVI, PAYAL PEARL, SANA, KIRAN๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  27. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธMAGGIE &* TARA. Maggie is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. New Girl Tara is a young & pretty Asian girl with big melons and fun services.
  28. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, & Ruby, *nicole tracy cindy RUBY is new today. Details to follow... Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true.
  29. Flowers Spa:
    โœฐ BLUEXADO SPA โœฐ 416.357.9797 โœฐ 1102 Centre St, Unit #6 Vaughan ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI | SHERRY a HongKong woman, is of average height and build, with very smooth skin. She is gorgeous and friendly. ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH | LINDA a 21-year-old Vietnamese, offers comfortable and professional full-body treatments. ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ HANNA Vietnamese good, energetic medium body; also does lighter treatments with emphasis on service. โœฐ BLUEXADO SPA โœฐ 416.357.9797 โœฐ
  30. PB888:
    fantasy spa
  31. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธMALIYA, ASHA, NINA, PAOLA, ANGEL, AAVI, PAYAL PEARL, SANA, KIRAN๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  32. do you need a customer:
    I wander what will happen when imagination come in the spa for a wellness check curious if anyone still there or on the deportation bus
  33. do you need a customer:
    Never tell a place the truth they block you so they can continue with the fake people
  34. do you need a customer:
    Only gee has limited English all they no is tips
  35. do you need a customer:
    Pictures are fake they do not look like that
  36. do you need a customer:
    If your looking for more then the dirty whores try elsewhere, but if your into that bee is there heavily used
  37. do you need a customer:
    All the gifts you need to take home too
  38. do you need a customer:
    Cheap brothal
  39. do you need a customer:
    If your a 10 min full service guy go see bee ,ada amd lucky
  40. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699 Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Friday๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New girl Tina๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ :heart4 Diana - Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility CiCi- Exotic beauty with great service...
  41. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ SANA, SARIKA, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  42. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong Kong
  43. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who Wa
  44. Golden Flower Spa:
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  45. KSpa:
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  47. SpringGreen.:
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  48. Moneylee:
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  50. Birchmount&14th:
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