Who has allergies, who doesn't?

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Something triggered a question in me last night after massaging seniors all day, so I went through my files and found that NONE of my senior clients has allergies other than some sinus issues that are seasonal. NONE. All of my clients who react to lotions, oils, scents or meds, particularly antibiotics, are under 50.

Now, I am sure there *are* seniors with more allergies, but my clientele is over 50% seniors, and none of them deal with this.

Being one who suffers from multiple allergy issues, I am not impressed with progress!!

Autoimmune disorders are also far less common among my elderly clients than my younger ones.
 


I'm not allergic to anything that I've been exposed to as of yet. Nor is my brother or sister. We're within 5 years of age. Grew up on a farm, didn't have central a/c, had a wood fire to heat our home. Mom and Dad were both smokers, too. I suspect being exposed to many things early on helps to build immunity?
 


StressSolutions said:
I suspect being exposed to many things early on helps to build immunity?

I think that there might be something to this. The way our immune system "learns" how to protect us is by being exposed to the very things we need protecting from.

Angie
 


I have many "allergies". I had a test done at one point, according to the test, I'm allergic too...

All Florida grasses
Dust
Cat & Dog Dander
Most foiliage and pollen in Florida

Do I have pets? Yep. Do I take anything? Nope,

Somtimes I get watery eyes around new dogs or cats, but I quickly adjust. I take something if my sinsues get too stuffy but besides that I ignore the fact that I am allergic to the state I live in! LOL.

Sometimes I think this society is too quick to medicate and doesn't allow for the natural processes of immune response to occur.

JMO
 


Talenyn said:
Sometimes I think this society is too quick to medicate and doesn't allow for the natural processes of immune response to occur.

My son had many "allergies" as a child. When they did the scratch test the doctor (a wonderful pediatric ENT) explained it to me this way...he said that everyone would react to certain things (molds, dust ect....) but what they looked at was how severe was the reaction.

And as for allergy shots (which my son did for about a year) what they actually are, are an injection of the very thing that you're allergic to but in small quanitites. This allows your body to adjust and you immune system to react "properly" rather than go all out of wack everytime you're exposed to the substance.

After the allergy shots my son's allergies went away for many years. About the time he hit puberty, they came back with a vengence. Instead of allergy shots (we didn't have insurance at the time) we opted to take him to a friend who does TCM. He put him on some chinese herbs and suggested that we also try shiatsu. He had one session of that and the practioner (a teacher at the massage school) taught me which points to work on at home. This seemed to work just as well as the allergy shots (at least in his instance) and now except for "allergy season" (pretty much the entire month of March here) he doesn't seem to have any problems.

Angie
 


I had severe allergies as a child. severe as in life-disrupting. Pretty much if the house furnace or car heater was on, I couldn't breathe. (and I live in Michigan where "artificial heat" as I called it is necessary!) Interesting point, the allergies just suddenly "appeared" at age 5 after my family moved into a house across from an Orida Potato field where they routinely sprayed pesticides. :smt102 my parents always thought there was a connection.
I was on several meds for several yrs before trying shots from age 12-15. those worked for me like a fricken' miracle. literally, CHANGED my life. My dr said they would come back after 10 yrs. at 23 I had one season where they came back and I thought I was doomed - but they haven't reared their ugly head since. (I'm 30 now, and very happily allergy free) I've been very grateful for the allergy shots!
 


Thanks for the heads-up Sharon...

After reading your post, I pulled a few charts of my senior clients. Out of the 25 charts pulled only one had an allergy... penicillin. I have many younger clients with environmental allergies, nut allergies, tobacco allergies, food allergies, etc. It's really interesting, thanks for giving me something to think about ;)

Darren
 


I'm glad to hear your files agree with my files, Darren. Very interesting!

I'm wondering if all our immunizations keep our immune systems from needing to work, therefore keeping the "muscles" from becoming strong enough to work properly?? Allergies are immune responses gone wild, basically, and reacting when not needed. Or maybe they're just bored and have to do SOMETHING. You know, like a child not kept busy, and therefore getting into trouble, lol.

I do think being exposed to normal stuff in childhood is ultimately good for us. Farm life was probably the healthiest way to live by far, until herbicides and pesticides and antibiotics became in SUCH heavy use. (I can understand some of the use, but it has increased dramatically in the past 30 years.) Still, farm life has to be beneficial.

Hmmm, I live in a farming community. I wonder how many of my seniors were farmers? Not too many of my younger clients are.
 


Interesting thoughts. I'll have to look at my client files, but off the top of my head, I'd venture to say most of my clients with allergies/sensitivities are younger. I don't know what causes it. I have read that the use of antibiotics may be a culprit. That does contribute to new and stronger strains of bacteria. Plus, everything is antibacterial this and that - soaps, household cleaning products, etc. Maybe we're killing stuff off before we can develop immunity to it. :lol: I'm not saying antibiotics and antibacterial stuff is necessarily bad but maybe just overused. I admit I don't know how exactly that would relate to allergies, if at all.
A lot of my clients did grow up on farms, even if they don't live or work on them now. Maybe there's something to that. But I grew up in large cities, and I have no allergies or sensitivities whatsoever. Then again, cities aren't the cleanest places in the world. ;)
 


This isn't really about allergies but this thread has brought it to mind for me......I was doing some research on Crohn's Disease (both my brother and son have it) and one doctor has a theory that it's caused by a lack of parasites in the digestion tract.

Seems that over the centuries, man has had different parasites in our intestines.....parasites that were picked up because our food wasn't always "sterile" and we would ingest these "critters" along with our food. Now, I'm not talking about tape worms or anything like that....just nice symbiotic parasites. The doctor's theory is that these parasites help us to digest our food and improve the function of our intestines. Without the parasites our bodies struggle.

His tests involve voluteers who have Crohn's drinking a beverage that contains the larvae of these helpful parasites. I don't know how his research is coming along....but it did seem interesting.

Guess eating mud pies as a child did us all some good.

:lol:
Angie
 


No external allergies here, I am alergic to IB Profin and Codine medications which stinks when I am in the hospital but as far as I know I do not have general allergies thank goodness :D
 


I don't have any allergies (knock on wood.) However, I have a friend who's 5 year-old has a severe peanut-allergy. It has completely changed their life. She can't have any packaged food at all, and restaurants have proven dangerous, too. What's interesting is that 10 students in her elementary school have peanut allergies, so the massageplaneteteria is very careful about food preparation and having safe alternatives. I don't remember knowing anyone having a peanut allergy when I was a child.
 


I'll echo what Bliss said...

My son's school is a nut free zone with all nut products banned not just peanuts. In fact most of the schools in the district have them banned. The cart that the school nurse has for meds is huge, and antihistimines are a large portion of it. The other biggest bin is for ritaline :( I think we are and have messed up way more than the environment. I have a seasonal allergy that is due to hit soon (tree in bloom, or some other June pollen).
My son and wife have a few as well, but none serious. My mom (77) has none, nore does any of her sisters.

Here's a related question... I have a few clients that have said they're symptoms decrease after a session, and it lasts for a few days. Anyone else have this experience, or have an idea of what mechanism might be at work here?

Darren
 


A couple of my clients mention symptom decrease too. I have no idea of the mechanism thus far - one of those mysteries like clearer eyesight after a session...

Well, wait, maybe I do have a guess - have there been any studies on massage and immune function in general? Has massage been shown to have a balancing effect, like adaptogenic herbs?
 


BJB-LMP said:
A couple of my clients mention symptom decrease too. I have no idea of the mechanism thus far - one of those mysteries like clearer eyesight after a session...

Well, wait, maybe I do have a guess - have there been any studies on massage and immune function in general? Has massage been shown to have a balancing effect, like adaptogenic herbs?

One of the effects of massage we were taught to spout out was that it enhances the immune system. Our A&P instructor did go into it in some detail for us, but I'd have to read through my notes to tell you how/why it does that. It did make sense. I have also had clients say their allergy symptoms decreased, and have found that receiving massage decreases my skin reactions for a few days. I haven't had much trouble with my asthma at all since I started massage school, but that may be due more to the decrease in stress, as my divorce was complete just before then. I threw the bum out and then realized a few months later that I had not used my inhaler even once!! Now I don't take any asthma meds unless I get bronchitis, which is also much less frequent. I'd like to think massage plays at least a little part in that. ;)
 


I've heard that sinus issues are often tied to the perfectionist personality and the "little things" get in the way and get the 'nose bent out of shape.' Have you considered looking at your clients personality types too?
 
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    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Victoria Day!!! ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Top Star Jenny, ๐Ÿ†• Cathy, Coco, JPN Yui, Cindy, Kelly, GFE Eva, Amber, Echo & Juliet โ€” ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Hit up 647-695-6354๐Ÿค™ or text to ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169 โœจ160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, Richmond Hill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  30. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl Hitti very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  31. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธAmber๐ŸŒธCarlyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  32. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  33. wonderspa:
    welcome toWonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)L6a 4H8,๐Ÿ”ฅ4165000-800,Ensuit rain shower is available ,every day 4 nice girls working,๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,everything she can do,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is very beautiful face long leg friendly ,nice body slide,really popular must try๐ŸŒนlong hair Mina strong to relax oil massage,back walk,nice sexy body slice.amazing ending,๐Ÿ”ฅbring you comfortable time๐ŸŒนmust try
  34. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Latino ๐Ÿ’– Malaysian ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  35. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSamy๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธPriya๐ŸŒธHellen Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  36. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅGood news for all the west end people in Etobicoke Mississauga Milton and Brampton!!!๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ˜˜The famous superstar Cambodian Princess Suki from Annie Spa is now working at Jennyโ€™s Spa in Etobicoke starting this Tuesday May 20th with Tina & Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE)
  37. 89moonstar&MoonMoon:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Spanish Latin white girl and 22ys Colombia girl today &&Bradford location 6477129688
  38. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ100 hh all in๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  39. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : LINA (12pm-9pm): is a young Hispanic girl, hot body, C Cups, brown skin, round tight big butt, cute baby face, great services. LUCKY (12pm-9pm): is Vietnamese, small body, busty D cup, very beautiful face, Young/Cute/Petite/Pure/Submissive, Fair Skin
  40. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  41. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Michelle 25โ€™s sexy body open mind and young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body, young cute Taiwanese Victoria slime open mind 25โ€™s and nice GFE cute are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  42. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ YUKI, MALIYA, MONICA, SASHA, BELA, AMANDA, PREETI, ANGELINA, SABHA, MONIKA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella & Yumi. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience.
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, FIONA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services.
  45. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga ViVi Sarah and Kiki work. They are young, sexy and cute and they give very good massage. Sarah is 23 years old and still a student. She only works for one day.
  46. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  47. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Yuki Sweet Singaporean Girl Sasa friendly Vietnamese girl Aiko She is a gorgeous model type Mixed Chinese/Japanese School Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  48. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: ๐ŸŒนSuperstar Julie, Fun Girl Bonnie, Indian Girl Radika and beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  49. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Sexy Faye, RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS ONLY $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌHelen๐Ÿฌ
  50. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒwe have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,open long weekends ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…, friendly nice girl Sunny providing deep tissue to relax oil message back walking hot stone and nice body slide,๐Ÿ…big big boob sexy face Joey is very good looking,amazing ending,really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ
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