TJ report.

[Searcher 5.0]

Okay here is one more article from
http://www.latinourbanforum.com/Lat...aveled_(Historical_Place_Specific)_Essay.html


The brothels also serve the function of supporting the main tourism engine in Tijuana, primarily by pumping American dollars into the local economy. For example, businesses benefit from the sex trade by providing fares for taxis who shuttle tourists to and from La Coahuila. Also, motels and hotels benefit from the sex industry through patrons utilizing rooms for discrete sex acts. In addition, the restaurants and local retail businesses benefit from the foot traffic that is generated from sex tourists seeking to dine and shop. All these aspects are vital as Tijuana’s economy emerges as a region supplemented by foreign American tourists.

 

[Bluestarz621@yahoo.com]

Yes you are right that Wikipedia is user-participated online encyclopedia and could contain misleading information. However, I would not totally label it as garbage data and could be actually helpful whey you are looking for some simple answers - especially when we are talking about simple question as to how TJ's economy is being helped by the tourists and mongers in our case.

 

[Lizard]

Wikipedia should never be used as a source of truthful information. Anyone can write whatever they want on their page.

 

[damnyankeega]

Just to add my 2 cents in this discussion, the chicas often have 1 or 2 kids and our money would go to feeding, educating, etc. them. Once I befriended a girl in CC, and she told me one really bright amiga friend of hers was working hard and saving money to buy real estate and start her own nail business. I think she had accomplished her goal. Nothing sadder than seeing chicas still working it way after their prime.

 

[Tom J [IS LOSTED]]

"In addition Tijuana has a legal "red-light" district known as the Zona Norte which also adds significant revenue to its economy". That is what the article said you stupid dumb ass. So we are definitely talking "pussy industry". You see, you have no credibility and are just nothing more than dumb, gringo-hating idiot. Wikipedia is not good for you ? It's one of the most read on-line source you stupid. Instead of doing blah blah, just admit you were wrong, if you are a real man, which I highly doubt at this point after reading your again-idiotic response above. I am also wondering why you are pretending like you know me ? I've been to TJ more than you have and have friends there. I have also spent more money in TJ than you have, contributing more to TJ's economy. As I said before, just shut the fxxk up. You are just making me sick to my stomach. You are the most idiotic guy I've ever encountered online before.

 

[Timothy H]

Am sorry Mike... what am I suppose to say?

I thought I already said it: stick to sticking you dick in pussy, Mr Rocket Scientist.

Love you Mike, I just love your kind that think that they own Mexico because they drop a few dollars here and a few dollars over there.

PS. Wikipedia, Mike??? oh, COME ON! Get me something better.

PPSD: Mike, are we talking pussy or are we talking FORMAL industry based in Tijuana? Have you Mike, ever been beyond a 10 block radius from the Interntional Bridge?

PPPS: Mike, stop answering my posts... you fared better long time ago. Now you are looking funny.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Well, I had to break my promise that I won't respond again because this dumb ass Amigomio keeps saying that nothing will happen to TJ's economy even if the money from the visitors from north is taken away, take a look at the following from Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tijuana

Tourism
From the arch hangs a sign saying "Bienvenidos a Tijuana" (Welcome to Tijuana)

Tijuana also relies on tourism as a major revenue. About 300,000 visitors cross by foot or car from the San Ysidro point of entry in the United States every day. Restaurants and taco stands, pharmacies, bars and dance clubs are part of the draw for the city's tourists. Many shops and stalls selling Mexican crafts and souvenirs are also located in walking distance from the border. Mexico's drinking age of 18 (vs. 21 in the United States) make it a common weekend destination for many high school and college aged Southern Californians who tend to stay within the Avenida Revoluciَn. Tijuana is also home to several pharmacies marketed toward visitors from the United States. These pharmacies sell some pharmaceutical drugs without prescriptions, and at much lower costs than pharmacies in the US. Many medications still require a Mexican doctor's prescription though several accessible doctor offices are located near the border as well. In addition Tijuana has a legal "red-light" district known as the Zona Norte which also adds significant revenue to its economy. Tijuana is also home to many businesses selling products and services at a much cheaper rate than in the United States. Such businesses as auto detailing, medical services, dentistry and plastic surgery are heavily marketed and located near the city's border with the US.


I can't wait to see what this guy will say next.

 

[amberaewmu]

I just love you Mike: and I copy-paste as usual "Let's suppose they closed down Zona for a year and see what happens."

Nothing Mike, nothing will happen.
Cause TJ's economy bases its self on the asambly line factories, which they've had for decades.
Long time ago, around the days of the Prohibition, or maybe during the Big One, WWII, MAYBE then it might have affected the city. But not today.
Prostitution and La Zona is only an ancillary operation that does not influence what goes on in the city proper except for narcs and violence.
If it shuts down by its self, good ridence for decent folk down there.
(You do know there are decent folk in Tijuana, right?)

AND if the Zona closes, the girls will move to other places in Mexico.
As easy as that.
And NOTHING will happen to TJ.

Let me point out that Tijuana doesn't have the monopoly in prostitution as you might think. TJ only has a fraction of the ho's that Monterrey (3.5 mil population) has, or Guadalajara (5 mil) , not to mention Mexico City (40 mil) or Ciudad Juarez (1.5 mil).

Please Mike keep going to TJ and just keep doing what you are best at, and that is sticking you dick in pussy... doesn't take a rocket scientist to do that.

And Mike, READ this carefully and ponder on it:
I just love Americans like you that think that you know Mexico more than Mexicans do.
Really I do.

.... and the answer is?

(I just love "back and forth" from a rocket scientist that think he runs Mexico just for dropping 400 -maybe less- dollars per month)

PS: "Trickle down..." Trickle down economics.. What are you? A former George Bush staff member??? Am I suppose to "hold on to your wallet" thing or something of the sort???
Are you Mike the Plumber???

 

[R2 Ranch]

Go back and read my post again you dumb ass. I don't care whether the money comes from corruption or whatever, money is money in a simple economic sense. Money earned from chicas are spent in the area whether purchasing new clothes, eating at the restaurant or whatever way it was spent. It's called trickle down effect you dumb ass. Let's suppose they closed down Zona for a year and see what happens. Since this "corruption" money does not help TJ according to your argument, it wouldn't really matter right ? I bet there would be a riot in TJ if that's the case. Stupid dumb ass.

As I said before, I love Mexicans because I think Latin Americans are the some of the friendliest people around. A guy like you gives Mexico bad name. FYI I go to TJ 2/3 times a month, not a year. As I also said before, I am not interested in engaging in back-and-forth argument with someone with seemingly low intelligence level. So this would be my last response. In the future, don't make any comments against my post. I just don't need anything from you and I am just wasting my time with a dumb guy who doesn't even know economy 101.

 

[cheshirekat260]

No my little funny man... you are distancing from your post.

You posted and I copy-paste "I am sure the cash generated in the Zona contributes significantly to the overall economy of TJ."

So, as a Mexican that really knows how corruption works in Mexico, posted by an American (I hopefully stand corrected on the "Gringo Estupido" part), that only come to Mexico a couple of days per year, you are telling me what corruption money in Mexico does and goes to?

Corruption money is CORRUPTION MONEY.

It goes NOWHERE but the pocket of those intended to get it, not for the good of "the overall economy of TJ" (copy-paste from your post)

God, you don't even remember what you wrote a couple of post ago.


PD: I copy paste again - "Despite numerous warnings from other mongers "
What is this? Am I beign threatened by the American Mafia of Idiot Mongers?
No really, am I being harmlessly threatened by you?
Sorry to remind you, this is a virtual forum where people hide in anonimity, what they post or don't post can be truth, exagerated truth, lies, tales, inventions of the wild imagination, but ignorance can't be hidden, my funny little friend.
I have helped so many Americans coming to Monterrey from this and other Forums and one of them is the one and only Bohemian (and I met him in person and there are others).
So, am happy I have one friend in the midst of many who don't care.

 

[ladedamom]

Well there you go again Amigomio or whatever the hell you are. Despite numerous warnings from other mongers not to try to "teach" or "correct" us, you are at it again calling Gringos stupid, etc. So money generated in Zona does not help TJ's economy ? So where is that huge amount of cash going ? Are the chicas putting the money under the mattress ? The dollar bill does not have "illegal" stamp on it. No matter where the money comes from, money is money. When money is spent, it helps the economy. I don't need any stupid comments from you so just keep it to yourself. I've told you before that if you can't write in constructive manner, just shut the fxxk up.
Also, illegal operation ? Okay I will forward your word to the police station which is located right in front of the clubs and prostitutes.

 

[purplecrazyy]

I think you guy are not getting a clear picture of the situation.

Yes, you are right, violence is completely overblown, but no, today's TJ is not what it used to be as close as 2 years ago.

You are very very very wrong in mentioning that the Zona contributes to the overall economy of TJ.
This is so tipical Gringo Estupido mentallity and I don't think you are that at all.
You are talking about ILLEGAL operations. How in hell can you get ILLEGAL money into la Ciudad de Tijuana treasury?
It might benefit the pockets of some, but not the city proper.

Again, back to ILLEGAL: the clubs used to give the cops and the municipio de Tijuana payoffs, but not anymore. They are now paying the narcs protection or then again, the clubs have been taken fully by the narcs.
That is why you don't hear about businesses closing down or again, when violence and shootings occur, Municipo de Tijuna does not shut it down permanently.
They are using the clubs now as their official drug selling points.
Used to be hush-hush, now the don't care.
Am sure many have noticed this kind of changes.

And please use your heads once in a while.
Narcs do not want to scare their customers away. Correct.
But they are not the only ones operating the Baja California organized crime spree that is going on.
The incapacity of Tijuana to control violence has atracted kidnapper rings from Mexico City where it has become hard for them to get rich marks. That and lots of other kind of gangs that are the ones that are doing all those highway robberies near Rosarito and around TJ.
They do it outside TJ, cause the city is narc territory and even then, am sure they are paying your "no violence in favor of business narcs" a piece of the action.

No boys, you are very wrong in you assesment of drug violence going on in TJ.



PD: Let me give you a local Monterrey example where Pax Romana has really been imposed. We don't have police hasseling us as they do in TJ. None, zip. But Transit Authority does hassel anyone moving at night in cars looking for drunk drivers. They use to be en-mass at the Villagran st area clubs, picking anyone starting their cars, stopping them a few feet aways after moving. Not anymore... narcs have kicked them out of the area, threatening them with a not so nice response if they kept doing what they were doing. Now they don't get as close as a 3 block radius from that zone and if they stop you, they wait till you get as far as 5 blocks away.
That, gentlemen, are narcs taking over silently and efficiently.
TJ is stil a battleground and you are in the middle.

 

[Vampurr Kitteh]

Come to think of it, of all the mongering $$$ flowing through the Zona Norte, a decent perceneforum.xxxe eventually may filter through into the locals buying drugs. So, it would be foolish to kill the goose laying the golden eggs.

 

[dougieb1968]

As far as safety of mongers in TJ, especially in the Zona Norte, I think it is safe to assume that even the drug cartels will not want to create any incidents there, like kidnapping or spraying bullets at random.
I don't know what the statistics are, but I am sure the cash generated in the Zona contributes significantly to the overall economy of TJ. Once a news breaks out in the states that some mongers were kidnapped or murdered by drug cartels in the Zona, that will be the end of TJ as we know it.
Having said that, it is still a dangerous place and we all need to exercise caution while in TJ. Just use your common sense - don't get drunk, respect the locals, don't stray outside of zona at night, etc.

 

[charles_soler]

Everybody wants to fuck sex workers for free. I guess it does happen, but not very often, and their usually are ulterior motives for the girl doing so?

It's too bad we don't know which bar this supposedly took place at. It sure sounds like Hong Kong, but the posting clearly says it's another bar, and then later they went to Hong Kong?

But to clear things up if this was the Hong Kong bar. Not all the chicas are dancers that work in Hong Kong, although it seems most get up there and dance. In other bars many girls never get up there and dance. The chicas that dance do follow a schedule, so they can't just go up on the main seforum.xxxe when it's not there turn to dance, but most are happy to do a little dance for you right there by your table.

With the exception of AB, you'll run into a few girls claiming they don't go upstairs with customers, and Hong Kong there are a few girls making that claim, as well as other bars, but most eventually go upstares as the money is too good to past up, or they go back home.

The good news from this report is the drug cartel stories, kidnappings are overblown, and most trips to TJ are as safe as ever, and you'll come home safely.

 

[HLEK87]

i heard after countless drinks(not the buyer)...you have them for free?

 

[xenic]

Wow, that story is hard to believe. So you got a girl from a club and had a hell of a time upstairs and she never asked for money, huh ?
So you look like Brad Pitt huh ?

 

[fadekemi]

I was asked to copy this here, when I replied to a San Diego thread.