Question about fibromyalgia

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I have an old friend who's come in to see me a few times, diagnosed with fibromyalgia. I've read that Swedish generally works for fm, however she'd seen an MT before who she felt was just 'too light'. I've done some moderately deep tissue on her, mostly on the back and she loves it. But the entire area of her upper back is like cement, especially between her scapula. Nothing I do seems to loosen or soften it whatsoever.

Right now, she's on disability due to the pain. I'm just looking for some ideas tossed out by those who may be more in the know. Right now she comes in once a month. Should I suggest she come in more frequently? (I know $$ is an issue but I'd be willing to do a lower package deal with her if I have something to offer that I feel could help her) Would some stretching help, or just keep with DT? Heat? Are there any books or DVDs that might give me more techniques to try? Other areas I should concentrate on as well?

She says she feels great afterward but it's not lasting. Maybe that's just what is going to happen, given her condition? I don't know. Just hoping someone might have had some experience with this.
 
Question about fibromyalgia

FMS clients often have a high tolerance for discomfort. Those that do often indicate a preference for "deep" pressure, as if more was always better. But they are at substantially greater risk of tissue damage if you work very aggressively. There are some good threads on FMS on MassagePlanetL, and I also recommend this article: http://amtamassage.org/journal/pdf/CE-Fibromyalgia.pdf - It's a good CE article on treating FMS written by Leon Chaitow.

FMS is a chronic condition, but it isn't necessarily permanent. She will benefit from regular work, but more importantly she needs to take control of her health and proactively adopt behaviors (regular exercise, better nutrition, more sleep) that will help keep her symptoms under control with less medication. If she fails to do so, she will always be at a therapeutic disadvaneforum.xxxe. In any case, you can't provide her with permanent relief - that's part of the challenge of working with clients that have a chronic pain condition.

There are a number of good books on fibromyalgia, both treating it and on living with it. You may want the former for yourself and recommend the latter type to her.

Hope that helps!
 
Question about fibromyalgia

You may want to view the videos on youtube.com by a Scottish Doctor: Dr. David Mikel - Mikel Therapy
He's posted some very interesting info related to fibromyalgia, linking it to the hypothalamus being in overdrive, creating the symptoms of FB, as well as other conditions. http://www.youtube.com/user/mtyrsi77#p/a/u/2/7CuGPRF3zXg

Very interesting concept as to the cause of this condition. Apparently he's had a high success rate with eliminating this condition. His website: http://www.mickeltherapy.com

While this won't help you decide how to treat your clients it's fascinating stuff to consider!
 
Question about fibromyalgia

The first thing that you will learn about working with fibro clients is that every one of them is different.
There are no hard and fast rules.
You may come to some generalizations after working with a good number over time...but NEVER assume.

You need to track very carefully to how they react to massage.
Have them keep notes on what's going on with their body for the week following a session.
Some can have a flare up after ANY bodywork.

Many do respond well to more deep tissue techniques - but I have found that many (not all) have to have a shorter session to start and then work up to an hour.
 
Question about fibromyalgia

Another thing to remember about fibro patients is that none of us are alike, and, that we are not the same from one day to the next. Today I feel like I could climb Mt Everest. Yesterday and Saturday, it was all I could do to move around and get my work done. It varies w/ weather, mood, motion, position, etc. And, there is an emotional component that may or may not be present in each person. Fibro ain't fun and it's not funny either.

I've had it most of my life and know how to live with it for myself. I also know that when I tell an LMT "light" I mean light because it's what I can tolerate that day. Listen to what a fibro patient tells you - they usually know themselves way better than you ever will.
 
Question about fibromyalgia

I have been meaning to post you some cross-links from the forum, in case you haven't had an opportunity to find those yet.

But, by no means am I suggesting that because we have other threads on the subject, people should stop responding. As a matter of fact, if someone is new to the forum and just now reading these, I hope to encourage you to add your two cents in, even if they are old threads! :)

I also found this comment over in the Reflexology Section today.
lunabelle said:
The most common ailment I see is definitely fibromyalgia. It seems these people are desperately looking for someone who can help them and are willing to try anything. I've obviously never "cured" someone and don't claim to try but I can't wait until I've had a fibro client for several years so we can look back at the progress.

Cross links:

 
Question about fibromyalgia

I would agree the fibro patients are all different, as they all have different levels of pain versus levels of fatigue. Honestly, especially in the neck and shoulders area, I would avoid deep pressure. I would also avoid any big stretches of the neck other than very slowly directly to the left or right. The clients may be able to handle these things, but they will pay for it later and it can really make them regress. I'd avoid any type of elblows into the back type work. Most fibro patients have neck and shoulder pain, hip pain, pain in their hands and feet, and digestive problems. I've found abdominal massage for fibro clients can really help relax them and also help with their digestive system. Most fibro can handle moderate pressure on massage, but I'd avoid any deep tissue massage and avoid using arms or elbows for pressure on their backs...It can really be difficult for fibro patients to even describe their pain because their symptoms/pain spots can change from day to day. I've yet to have a fibro patient that didn't have terrible neck and shoulder stiffness, hip pain, and some type of digestive issues. One other thing, make sure you use heating pads and keep the client warm, because many fibromyalgia patients suffer from cold hands and and feet and poor circulation.
 
Question about fibromyalgia

I've had a few fibro clients and like everyone here has already said they are all different. I tailor their massage to what they night but I've found that mixing up my modalities really works well. I do some MFR and positional release to address their painful areas. I also usually through in some CranioSacral therapy. CST is one thing that all of my fibro clients have said helps them sleep better that night.
 
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I have so many fibromyalgia patients lately I was thinking of taking a course here to learn how to treat them in the most effective ways.
 
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    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: Superstar Bobo, Jap/Chin Akino, Indian Girl Radika and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน
  39. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธVivian๐ŸŒธPriya๐ŸŒธMelissa Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  40. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. KITTY (12:30pm-9pm) : is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new
  41. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  42. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA & TIFFANY; EVENING SASHA & SHAYLA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs
  44. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Nico works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  45. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (India) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  46. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI (Vietnam/HK), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ANNA (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY (Philippines/VN) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  47. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  48. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard street west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New girl MIMI๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ apple- Sweet school girl with a large serving of naughtiness Angela- Slim beauty with long legs and nice proportions Julia- Exotic beauty with great service and attitude kโ€†k- Spunky fun in... Attachments Call and text 6478910699 Ask...
  49. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: wonderspa: โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available open long weekend ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily, amazing touch, really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ‘
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young cute Taiwanese 25โ€™s slime open mind and sexy flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open mind, sexy Coco and pretty GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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