Lateral calf pain

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Hey all -- I need some suggestions for stretches, techniques, etc. for a client of mine with lateral calf pain. She's in her 60's and an avid walker. Recently, she's been trying to up her speed walking, but has been unable to due to a "shin-splint feeling" in her lateral calf. She's definately got some adhesions that I've been working on, but was looking for some stretches, or unique techniques that you may have had success with. She's very good at doing all her other stretches at home, but the lateral calf pain isn't getting better yet. I'm open to any ideas!! Thanks!
 


gosh...my husband was just complaining of this same thing... he has this deep aching pain on the side of his calf since he was a kid...pain is not constant...it comes and goes...no injuries that he can recall, its worse when he climbs stairs or bike rides...he is an avid runner.
its in one leg only.

i checked my trigger points book....side of leg pain is caused from trigger points in gastroc, peroneus longus, v. lateralis and glut minimus..

"walking, running and climbing stairs done in excess, preditcably cause trigger points in the per. longus muscles. Walking is even worse for these muscles if you have a short leg, flat feet, or Morton's toe structure. Per. longus trigger points found just below the head of the fiblula".

however, the longus referred pain is in the ankle area..

i am going to check my husband for a short leg....and work his gastroc. muscles, as the referred pain from trigger points in the gastroc. muscles can be on the side of the leg..

i'm working the calf muscles and his glutes....alternating days working on his quads..

here is a gatroc. stretch (there are others on this site as well):

http://www.exrx.net/Stretches/Gastrocnemius/Wall.html

good luck.
 


Is she warming up before she is walking?
Is she cooling down and stretching afterwards?
How quickly is she trying to increase her speed of walking?
 


Are her feet inverted/everted?
One foot or both?
Whatโ€™s going on @ knees/hips?
History of injury, etc???

Itโ€™s hard to say what is going on with your client from your description, but Iโ€™ll share what my daughter went thru โ€“ maybe it will helpโ€ฆ

My teenage daughter runs track and strained her left lateral calf & tested positive for lateral leg strain (peroneus longus). She also felt pain in her ankle & pain in the attachment at the base of her pinky toe bone (5th metatarsal). She had a difficult time training and missed most of the season.

In trying to figure out what was causing the problem, (in addition to going to our Dr to check for a stress fracture, yadda, yadda, yadda) we went to the local running shop & had them assess her gait while walking and running we found out that she inverts her ankles. They fitted her with appropriate running shoes & it has made a world of difference. About 3 months later she was just beginning to have the same pain, so back to the shoe store & discovered she needed a new pair of shoes. Weโ€™ve been able to stay on top of it since.

The moral of the story for me was, the proper shoes make a world of difference and replace them regularly - every couple of months if need be.

When I have a client who inverts their ankles, their lateral calf muscles are strained, stretched out & weakened โ€“ hence the trigger points. These are the muscles that will need to be strengthened.

The tight muscles causing the inverted ankle are Extensor Hallicus Longus, Flexor Digitorum Longus, Flexor Hallicus Longus & Tibialis Anterior & especially Tibialis Posterior. These are the muscles to get in and stretch/open up/loosen up. To get into the posterior tib, try reaching in behind the tibia, approach from medial and work to warm up/loosen up behind the shin bone (hope you can get the visual). Go easy in here โ€“ not uncommon to hear my client say โ€œohh, I didnโ€™t know it was so tight thereโ€. Of course you want to work the whole lower leg โ€“ gastrocs, soleus and lateral leg as well as the foot, upper leg & hips โ€“ thereโ€™s usually stuff going on there too. But see what you can find when you go digging behind the medial aspect of the tibia.

For great info on specific stretches & strengthening exercises check out James Waslaskiโ€™s Ortho Massage seminars.

Hope this helps
 


Hey all -- thanks for the info -- it's always nice to be able to "pick other therapists' brains"! The client is very good about warming-up & cooling down as well as stretching. From everyone's suggestions it sounds like I'm hitting the right areas; it may just take some work. She's had some Plantar Fascitis that we've been working with and high arches. It feels like a big puzzle some days -- you just gotta keep putting pieces together! Thanks so much for all your help!!
 


I am leaning towards that she needs to strengthen these muscles, since they may not be able to take the overload of the increased workout. I would also have her show you "How" she stretches before and after her workout. Some people think they know what they are doing and actually can be hurting themselves.

I would also go with the shoe theory, in the extent that the surface and shoe that you are using has a lot to do with shin splints as well. If she has new shoes they might not be fitted properly for high arches. If there isn't a proper arch support, walking can be unbearable after a while. Find out if she wears orthotics... they may also be the culprit...

Also find out if she has changed her course of where she is walking, if she is used to walking on pavement, then switched to a track or grass, indoor vs. outdoor.

I used to suffer from horrible shin splints when I was younger, mainly because I would be outside running on grass and dirt for Softball and Soccer then from March/April till Mid November I would be inside running on the hard basketball court... 2 weeks into the season and I would have a horrible foot drop because of the different surface and sneakers that I wore. I lived in the trainers room for quite a while... If I only knew then what I know now.

I would have her call a local runners store and find out if they also carry walking shoes and have them assess her for the proper footwear.
 


i agree with both berkana and pandora.

(although, one of my personal mantras is, "when all else fails, buy shoes.")
 


Sidelying:Warm up.
Have client invert/evert while doing myofascial release.
After warming up....T bar on Tib Ant.
Robyn
 
lateral lower leg pain

something that is working for me.... I had an accident and my whole foot was detached and then surgically reattached...

Pilates "froggy feet" and Cadillac sequence. amazingly fast restoration.
These exercises are easily recreated on the floor with an exercise ball.

This was fifteen years ago, after learning how to walk again, the feeling is almost totally back. The first several years my right foot had the awareness of a frozen snowshoe.

Exercise and beathing, yoga, T'ai chi and Pilates.
And massage,of course.

Just thought I'd give some hope.
 


Wow szuzso! That gave me the chill bumps! Your whole entire foot was detached???? Yai Yai Yai Yai...where is the emoticon for "I've got the willy's!"

I give you a standing ovation for getting through that and the amazing patience to regain movement and normal function abilities!!! :smt038 :smt038

A client I once had told me that she had a daily exercise from PT to pick up marbles with her toes and put them in a bucket.
 
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    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Superstar Lucy, Young RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌLUCY AND HELEN๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  38. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: Superstar Bobo, Jap/Chin Akino, Indian Girl Radika and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน
  39. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธVivian๐ŸŒธPriya๐ŸŒธMelissa Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  40. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. KITTY (12:30pm-9pm) : is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new
  41. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  42. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA & TIFFANY; EVENING SASHA & SHAYLA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs
  44. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Nico works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  45. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (India) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  46. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI (Vietnam/HK), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ANNA (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY (Philippines/VN) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  47. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  48. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard street west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹New girl MIMI๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ apple- Sweet school girl with a large serving of naughtiness Angela- Slim beauty with long legs and nice proportions Julia- Exotic beauty with great service and attitude kโ€†k- Spunky fun in... Attachments Call and text 6478910699 Ask...
  49. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: wonderspa: โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available open long weekend ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily, amazing touch, really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ‘
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young cute Taiwanese 25โ€™s slime open mind and sexy flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open mind, sexy Coco and pretty GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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